Pariah Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 I couldn't find an updated basketball thread, so here we are. And let's begin with the most compelling non-story of the off-season, the Kevin Durant saga. Kevin Durant trade rumors: Superstar tells Nets owner to deal him or fire Steve Nash, Sean Marks, per report Something about inmates running the asylum... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Pariah said: I couldn't find an updated basketball thread, so here we are. And let's begin with the most compelling non-story of the off-season, the Kevin Durant saga. Kevin Durant trade rumors: Superstar tells Nets owner to deal him or fire Steve Nash, Sean Marks, per report Something about inmates running the asylum... That's been true for a couple decades, and a major issue for at least a decade. Not even sure I could pick a single poster boy leading the way...LBJ, Harden, Irving? At least those might be the recent ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 The NBA has announced that the #6 will be retired for all teams, in honor of Bill Russell. Pariah and Cygnia 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted September 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 Reporter: "You'll be playing with LeBron James and Anthony Davis." Patrick Beverley: "They're gonna be playing with me. I made the playoffs last year, they didn't." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 Robert Sarver, Suns and Mercury owner, has been suspended for a year, and fined $10M, for an *extensive* history of racist and misogynistic comments. https://www.nba.com/news/nba-investigation-robert-sarver-suns-official-release From the sound of it, he makes Dan Snyder look cuddly. Broad sentiment is, this is a slap on the wrist, but what was done with Donald Sterling probably won't be repeated...because it's too threatening to the other owners. EDIT: from the executive summary: As set forth in more detail below, during the period: • Sarver said the N-word at least five times in repeating or purporting to repeat what a Black person said—four of those after being told by both Black and white subordinates that he should not use the word, even in repetition of another. • Sarver used language and engaged in conduct demeaning of female employees. Among other examples, he told a pregnant employee that she would be unable to do her job upon becoming a mother; berated a female employee in front of others and then commented that women cry too much; and arranged an all-female lunch so that female employees at Western Alliance Bank, where at the time he was CEO, could explain to female Suns employees how to handle his demands. • Sarver commented and made jokes frequently to employees in large and small settings about sex and sex-related anatomy, including by making crude or otherwise inappropriate comments about the physical appearance and bodies of female employees and other women. On four occasions, Sarver engaged in workplace-inappropriate physical conduct toward male employees. • Over 50 current and former employees reported that Sarver frequently engaged in demeaning and harsh treatment of employees—including by yelling and cursing at them—that on occasion constituted bullying under workplace standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted September 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 Wow, it's a good thing Sarver doesn't own a business where the vast majority of his high-profile employees are Black.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 Couple of points from talk shows, basically on the same aspect: the suspension was inadequate because the level of outrage isn't as high. --There's no tape. When tape exists, outrage boils over. Ray Rice...nothing until the tape. Donald Sterling...we had the tape. DeShaun Watson...no tape. --It's the off-season, so basketball generally is still on the back burner. --It's old news. The allegations were brought up last year. Outrage fades...which isn't a bad thing, but it does. Insiders all knew Sterling was a weasel, but that charge SMACKED us upside the head, and we reacted. The NBA had to move quickly, and the outrage remained very high. Contrast, again, Deshaun Watson, and Dan Snyder. --Listening to a part of NBA Today...according to Ramona Shelbourne, in the Sterling case about the sale of the team by his wife against his wishes...the sponsors *bailed*. The club was gonna be bleeding money *fast*. That damaged the league, and that gave Silver more leverage. So one thing here is that last point. The players won't be happy...on either team. The team sponsors won't be happy. So this may not be over. Sarver may still have to divest, as a business move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 The best impetus to force Sarver out is financial pressure. The Suns have a pretty big deal with PayPal as jersey sponsors...that's a high-vis location. And it looked like there were other cross-promotional aspects. Also, the team's 2nd-largest shareholder publicly called for his removal. Timing may be big here. It's the 16th. Training camps open on the 27th. Opening day for the season is Oct. 18th. Sponsors will feel heat to decide, certainly by opening day, and media heat on the players and coaches will explode when training camp opens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 Just A Few Of The Abhorrent Things Robert Sarver Did To Get Suspended From The NBA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 Head of the player's association is calling for his ban now. Quote "It is our players' desire that while we understand that there has been a thorough investigation and we're very pleased that the NBA was able to follow through on that, because that's clearly something that we want to see happen, we also want to make it very clear that we do not want him to back in a position where he will be impacting our players and those who serve our players on a daily basis." Late edit, before shutting down for the evening. Opinion piece in USA Today on the situation: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/columnist/jeff-zillgitt/2022/09/16/phoenix-suns-owner-robert-sarver-out-public-pressure-mounts/10397274002/ Cygnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 Robert Sarver says he's starting process to sell NBA's Phoenix Suns, WNBA's Phoenix Mercury Pariah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 How Much NBA Legend Dwyane Wade Thinks You Should Spend on a Nice Bottle of Wine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 Still too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 43 minutes ago, Logan.1179 said: Still too much. $60-70? Nah. More than I'd spend regularly, but very reasonable for a special occasion. Most I've spent? 30th birthday. Born in '58...there are good wines out there, but they're scarce. But '59 was one of the great years in Bordeaux. '59 Palmer. $500. In 1988 dollars, mind. And totally worth it. It's a lot harder nowadays to pull the trigger, because wine prices have skyrocketed beyond reason. Very good California Cabs like Diamond Creek could be found for around $30 a bottle in the mid 80s; that'd be about $80 now. But the current prices...closer to $300 for recent Diamond Creek offerings. I'd shifted away from Cali for that reason, mostly doing wine from Spain or Chile, and in some cases, some of the blended Cali reds that were quite good, and TONS cheaper. So, yeah, I'll grant you can get a very enjoyable bottle for a lot less, but the really good stuff can be on another level altogether. Cygnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 Celtics suspend their coach Ime Udoka for a year, for an inappropriate relationship with another member of the organization, in violation of team rules. And no guarantees he'll return to the court after the suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 Complete list of projected win totals for every NBA team Houston Rockets 23.5 games Indiana Pacers 23.5 games Oklahoma City Thunder 23.5 games San Antonio Spurs 24.5 games Utah Jazz 24.5 games Orlando Magic 26.5 games New York Knicks 28.5 games Brooklyn Nets 29.5 games Detroit Pistons 29.5 games Sacramento Kings 34.5 games Washington Wizards 35.5 games Charlotte Hornets 36.5 games Portland Trail Blazers 39.5 games Chicago Bulls 42.5 games Los Angeles Lakers 44.5 games New Orleans Pelicans 44.5 games Atlanta Hawks 45.5 games Cleveland Cavaliers 47.5 games Toronto Raptors 47.5 games Dallas Mavericks 48.5 games Minnesota Timberwolves 48.5 games Memphis Grizzlies 49.5 games Miami Heat 49.5 games Denver Nuggets 51.5 games Philadelphia 76ers 51.5 games Golden State Warriors 52.5 games Los Angeles Clippers 52.5 games Milwaukee Bucks 52.5 games Phoenix Suns 52.5 games Boston Celtics 54.5 games These are *seriously* debatable in some spots. Celtics lose their coach. Suns are a wet mess off the court, how will that affect things on the court? Have the Lakers really fixed their issues? Granted, 44 wins is probably out in the first full round of the playoffs, but that roster could still completely bomb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 Basketball player goes viral for his wild last name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted October 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2022 Look, I'm not cleaning to be an expert or anything here, but have we considered the fact that Draymond Green may just be mentally ill? Has anybody checked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted October 8, 2022 Report Share Posted October 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Pariah said: Look, I'm not cleaning to be an expert or anything here, but have we considered the fact that Draymond Green may just be mentally ill? Has anybody checked? I doubt it. I think his competitive drive has simply never been throttled, and his impulse control is poor. Mind, those are explanatory points, rather than excusive. Those are issues you'd hope to outgrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted October 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 😢 Dikembe Mutombo is currently undergoing treatment for a brain tumor Logan D. Hurricanes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 I saw that. He was one of my favorite guys when I got into the NBA. Wishing him the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted October 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 For a time, he was arguably the second most popular professional athlete in Denver, right behind John Elway. I hope he can beat this thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted October 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 Huh. The Jazz win their season opener against the favored Nuggets tonight, 123-102. I saw the introductions of the teams before the game, and two things really stuck out to me: 1. There were a large number of empty seats. That's just not something you see at a Jazz game. 2. There were maybe two Jazz players who looked like they were actually excited to be there tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 Opening game notes... From the Athletic's Pulse newsletter, Lakers look just like last year. No outside shooting. No fixes for the core issues. Granted, playing the Warriors, but they were very dismissive. Tonight, the Nets fall, and Ben Simmons looks...pretty miserable. They lose...to the Pelicans. Down 18 at the end of 1, down 30 apparently at one point. Final margin was 22. Legler's comments seem to be wondering how long it'll be before the whole thing completely falls apart. I mean, we all know the Nets are renowned for their stability and professionalism and demeanor...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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