JohnTaber Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 Hi Guys, Got a rules question. One of the players in my game has an Ego Attack with IPE (+1/2). According to the book this makes it invisible to all senses. Now my questions... 1) Does this still mask the source of the attack? In other words, could said mentalist hide out in a crown and Ego Attack without being detected by the target OR anyone else with mental powers. 2) Is there a way to mask the source of the attack without masking it from Mental Senses? For example, said mentalist can sit in the crowd and Ego Attack without being detected. If someone in the area has Mental Senses they can see the attack and it's source. Hard to describe in an email...hope this is clear... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Shecky Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 Without IPE, EGO attack is visible to the target and anyone else with a mental power or mental awareness. With IPE, it is invisible to everyone. (This is all in FREd, p. 80). If you want it to be invisible to the target only, I would say give it IPE, and then take a limitation like "Invisible to target only." That shouldn't be a very large limitation though, unless mental powers are pretty common. If you want it to still be vsisble to targets with mental powers or mental awareness, that's a larger limitation: then the advantage only works against a limited group of targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilFleischmann Posted March 20, 2003 Report Share Posted March 20, 2003 For years, I've been using "Invisible to characters without Mental Awareness" as a +1/4 advantage. It seems to work just fine. Any character with mental powers (the target or a bystander) can see the attack. Note that even a character without mental powers will still feel the attack and know he's being harmed, even if he doesn't know where it's coming from. Though he may be able to figure it out by other means: Everyone in the crowd is in casual clothes, except for one guy in neon-colored spandex with a shiny bald head and a huge letter M on his chest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted March 20, 2003 Report Share Posted March 20, 2003 Originally posted by Uncle Shecky Without IPE, EGO attack is visible to the target and anyone else with a mental power or mental awareness. With IPE, it is invisible to everyone. (This is all in FREd, p. 80). It's worth clarifying that the victim of a Mental Power with IPE would still be aware that the Power had been used on him; he just wouldn't be able to tell where the attack came from or who used it. Causing the victim to be unaware of the attack requires a +20 on the effect die roll. The Ultimate Mentalist did offer one optional method for hiding a mental attack without using IPE; you can buy the Skill "Cloak". This is the mentalist's version of Stealth, reflecting a cautious use of the Power. Making a successful roll (based on EGO) will hide the use of a Mental Power from characters with Mental Awareness, although not from the victim of the attack. People with MA roll their Perception against the Cloak roll to detect the Power as a Skill vs. Skill roll, as with Stealth. Cloak suffers a -1 to the roll for every 10 Active Points of Mental Power used. (Ultimate Mentalist p. 12) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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