Dust Raven Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 Just a quick question... What's the DEF and BODY of these items? I'm compiling a list of stuff for my own Object table. Anvil Fire Hydrant Mailbox (like on a street corner, in front of the post office, etc) Mailbox (the kind that high school students bash with bats on weekends) Sewer Grate And just in case, if you can think of other objects for this list (that aren't already in FREd, but maybe other books), that would help too! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Goodwin Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 Re: Anvils and Fire Hydrants P. 304 of FREd is your friend. For all of the items, BODY depends on mass (use the unliving column on the Object BODY table). Anvil: Call it hardened casting. 9 DEF. A 100 kg anvil would be 9 DEF, 7 BODY. Fire Hydrant: Call it casting. 8 DEF. Mass probably at least 100 kg; minimum of 7 BODY. Mailbox, street corner: Sheet metal, mass probably 50 kg. 4 DEF, 6 BODY. Mailbox, home: Sheet metal, mass probably 1.6 kg. 4 DEF, 1 BODY. Sewer grate: Casting, mass probably 12.5 kg. 8 DEF, 4 BODY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dust Raven Posted August 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 Re: Anvils and Fire Hydrants Thanks archer! Having no experience with building, destroying or lifting such things, I didn't have any place to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCoy Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 Re: Anvils and Fire Hydrants Fire Hydrant: Call it casting. 8 DEF. Mass probably at least 100 kg; minimum of 7 BODY. Mailbox, street corner: Sheet metal, mass probably 50 kg. 4 DEF, 6 BODY. Think you're way over on mass estimates, remember, they'r hollow. Have seen one man move fire hydrants and mailboxes when not bolted down, think both are closer to 50 pounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPC Brown Cow Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 Re: Anvils and Fire Hydrants Think you're way over on mass estimates' date=' remember, they'r hollow. Have seen one man move fire hydrants and mailboxes when not bolted down, think both are closer to 50 pounds.[/quote'] I tried some Google-fu, no luck. However I did find out how much those cast iron man hole covers weigh. INFILLED CAST IRON CIRCULAR MANHOLE COVERS - HEAVY DUTY (Class D) for vehicular traffic > Diameter: 800mm > Weight: 150kg - LIGHT DUTY (Class for pedestrian traffic > Diameter: 700mm > Weight: 98kg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Goodwin Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 Re: Anvils and Fire Hydrants I tried some Google-fu' date=' no luck.[/quote'] Your Google-fu is weak, old man. http://www.firehydrant.org/collector/darrenpeets.html shows a guy who has a fire hydrant. He says his is 110kg. http://www.physics.ubc.ca/~dpeets/humour.html shows the same guy and the same hydrant, which here he says is 86kg. Someone in the comments here (warning: not work safe) did some research and found that a fire hydrant weighs about 150 pounds (call it 75kg). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 Re: Anvils and Fire Hydrants P. 304 of FREd is your friend. For all of the items, BODY depends on mass (use the unliving column on the Object BODY table). Anvil: Call it hardened casting. 9 DEF. A 100 kg anvil would be 9 DEF, 7 BODY. Fire Hydrant: Call it casting. 8 DEF. Mass probably at least 100 kg; minimum of 7 BODY. Mailbox, street corner: Sheet metal, mass probably 50 kg. 4 DEF, 6 BODY. Mailbox, home: Sheet metal, mass probably 1.6 kg. 4 DEF, 1 BODY. Sewer grate: Casting, mass probably 12.5 kg. 8 DEF, 4 BODY. Either the street-corner mailbox's DEF should go up a point, or (IMO better) the house mailbox's DEF should go down one. House mailboxes are made with much thinner sheet. Since hydrants are connected to the water mains, there's somewhere for energy to dissipate to. I'd give 'em 1 more point of DEF; YMMV. As for the mass of hydrants and street-corner mailboxes; don't forget the mass of the water, and letters, respectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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