薔薇語 Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 I'm trying to build a character and have run into an unexpected road block. The rule for "Eye Contact required" state that it can only be applies to Mental powers. Alas, there doesn't seem to be anyway to make a power that isn't naturally Mental, mental. My example power: "Entangle 2d6, 2 PD/2 ED, Alternate Combat Value (uses OMCV against DMCV; +1/4), LOS (+1/2)" I want to apply "eye contact required" for this power but the rules don't allow for it. Is this a change from 5th? Is there a way around it that I'm not noticing? The Character in question has psychic / mental powers that are channeled through his eyes. The limitation for most of his powers is that he must make eye contact to have an affect on others. La Rose ---If nothing else, I'm just writing this up as a "limited power" lim to mimic "ECR." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Re: Eye Contact required Every once in a while, I wonder if we wouldn't be better off going back to paper and pencil. Lucius Alexander Palindromedary on a palimpsest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Re: Eye Contact required Yeah, I was going to say this sounds like you're just running into Hero Designer being, well, Hero Designer. try "Limited Power: Eye Contact Required" --- not everything in HD has to be done with the Modifier As Presented. There's a reason Dan put in Add Custom Modifier and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
薔薇語 Posted January 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Re: Eye Contact required Yeah, I was going to say this sounds like you're just running into Hero Designer being, well, Hero Designer. try "Limited Power: Eye Contact Required" --- not everything in HD has to be done with the Modifier As Presented. There's a reason Dan put in Add Custom Modifier and such. That is what I ended up doing. As best I can tell, HD is following the rules as they are written on this. I can not find a rule in the book that makes the power become a mental power. ECR states that it can only be applied to mental powers. HD is enforcing that rule. My concern was if I was missing something in the book, not if HD is doing anything right or wrong. La Rose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest steamteck Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Re: Eye Contact required Every once in a while, I wonder if we wouldn't be better off going back to paper and pencil. Lucius Alexander Palindromedary on a palimpsest Actually HERO designer seems to slow us down. Only the computer geek in our crowd uses it and he spends a lot of time fighting with the software while we are creating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Re: Eye Contact required I rarely sit down and do a character straight through. I have time to work out the little intricacies in the power builds before I actually try to get the software to agree with me. Primarily, the software does a nice character sheet at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Re: Eye Contact required That is what I ended up doing. As best I can tell, HD is following the rules as they are written on this. I can not find a rule in the book that makes the power become a mental power. ECR states that it can only be applied to mental powers. HD is enforcing that rule. My concern was if I was missing something in the book, not if HD is doing anything right or wrong. La Rose. Indeed, while the Books version of Eye Contact Required has built in specifications - there really isn't anything in the rules actually stopping you from putting the same words onto any power and you and the GM knowing what's going on. The opposite in fact, the book itself encourages you to play the game as you want to play it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
薔薇語 Posted January 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Re: Eye Contact required Indeed. I rarely find myself worried about doing custom lims or advantages. I just like to use the book whenever possible. But yes, I did go with my initial idea of just using a "limited power" limitation. La Rose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checkmate Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Re: Eye Contact required Actually HERO designer seems to slow us down. Only the computer geek in our crowd uses it and he spends a lot of time fighting with the software while we are creating. Really? Do you use alternate characteristics? Because I'll challenge anyone my Hero Designer against their pen and paper to see who's done first. Granted I do have a few prefabs to make my life easier, that others may not (I converted the entire Ultimate Martial Artist to a prefab), but even without those I'm lightyears faster with HD than without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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