MisterBaldy

August 28, 2007

Re: Susano's Guide to Adapting Fictional Characters to HERO

I will be expanding on this article. I intend to add a note in the beginning dealing with the "why" of adapting fictional characters' date=' a note towards the end commenting on not obsessing about the point totals, and a few comments about Power Frameworks.[/quote']
I'll be looking forward to it!!!

August 26, 2007

Re: Can you choose not to Regenerate?

Here is the catch' date=' can the character turn off the power on their Segment 12 Phase (assuming at least a SPD 2), and choose not to turn the power back on before the end of the Phase?[/quote']
Again the answer to that would be... NO!!!

Even though the power is "turned off", it automatically works on Post-Segment 12 Recovery, but is still considered "shut-off" until reactivated otherwise.

August 26, 2007

Re: Can you choose not to Regenerate?

I'll admit it. I am feeling lazy... or is it tired?

Anyway, I could probably dig in the book to find this, I reckon, but I'm guessing "somebody already knows."

Okay so here's the power... straight-up 5th ed Healing/Regeneration:

Regeneration 3 BODY, Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2), Persistent (+1/2) (60 Active Points); Extra Time (Regeneration-Only) 1 Turn (Post-Segment 12) (-1 1/4), Self Only (-1/2)

So, if I have this power, can I choose not to regenerate when Post-Segment 12 rolls along? If not, is there a way to build Regeneration so you can control it when you are conscious? (Obviously, I wouldn't be able to do anything about it when he's unconscious.)

I've got a player that wants to hide this ability sometimes.

Can you stop it on Post-Segment 12? Actually, the answer to that is a resounding... NO!!!

From HERO 5th, Revised; page 187:

The Power works automatically during every Post-Segment 12 Recovery, allowing the character to recover 1 BODY per die of Healing per Turn.

From Persistent in HERO 5th, Revised; page 257:Persistent

Value: +½

An Instant or Constant Power with this +½ Advantage becomes a Persistent Power - it remains "turned on" even though the character is unconscious. The power must first cost no END, or be bought to Reduced Endurance (0 END). A Persistent Power costs 0 End to maintain, and remains turned on until the character concsiously decides to turn it off or dies. (See page 100 for more information on Persistent Powers).

Although these two entries would appear to "contradict" one another, they actually do not.

The power works "automatically" on Post-Segment 12 Recovery. You do not have control over that Segment, so therefore... the power works, and cannot be shut off at that time.

He can though, shut off his/her Regeneration during his/her regular phases... just not the Post-Segment 12 Recovery.

August 26, 2007

Re: Return to gaming

No problems.

as long as you don't mind it when you become that "strange man" living at the end of the block all the kids are convinced is a serial killer.

Oh no... I don't believe I did it again!!!

I just killed off yet another box of Cheerios!!!

Does that make me a "cereal killer"? :snicker:

August 26, 2007

Re: Susano's Guide to Adapting Fictional Characters to HERO

Nice article... I've Copy/Pasted to an Open Office Document... it's got some really great advice. :thumbup:

August 21, 2007

Re: Gestalt is Online

Speaking as a moderator this thread is getting too personal. Keep things friendly and respectful, eh?

Telling other posters what you believe they are "really" thinking or saying tends to piss people off.

Thank you Oddhat.

MitchellS was indeed getting me "hot under the collar". Look MitchellS, you can agree, disagree or have no opinion at all about my statements... that's your right as a participant. Just don't profess to tell me what I am "feeling/thinking"... I'll do that for myself.

Look, in comparison to what I have priced out there, and what I am watching the in the market, I feel it is overpriced. I have the right as a consumer to make that decision... It's my money that I am going to spend after all. I also have the right as a consumer to make my comparisons how I wish to. I choose to base my decisions on other products of the HERO/DOJ line. After all, Gestalt is a book that is being done for the HERO System, so I'll base my decision on those products.

So, based on the price of $49.95 for the hard print copy of Gestalt... I'll pass for now, and I'll just continue to purchase those items I really want from the HERO/DOJ catalog. If I find it cheaper somewhere, and within the price range I consider acceptable... then I'll probably purchase Gestalt.

For now though, the $49.95 pricetag is steering me away, and I'll make my purchases from HERO. :thumbup:

August 21, 2007

Re: Looking for Classic Champions character templates

I am still trying a few people I know...

I am hoping to turn up something this weekend.

August 20, 2007

Re: Gestalt is Online

The fact that you can't afford the book has nothing to do with the price of the book; but your statement is coming off as if the book's over-priced for the market. There's a huge difference between "I can't afford it" and "it's over-priced." One statement is a reflection of you and the other statement is a reflection of the company.

For the size of the book and the size of the company the book is reasonably priced. No one at the company is trying to cheat anyone out of an extra $10.00 for the book. That's just what it costs to print in small runs. The fact that you want the book but can't afford it doesn't mean you should disparage the material [and that's what you did by criticizing the price and making statement about how poorly you think it will sell based on price] just because you can't get it. It's like saying that you want a Lexus but can't afford a Lexus so you go around telling people Lexus won't sell well because you can't afford it.

I'm sorry your financial situation doesn't allow you to buy the book. Perhaps that will change in the future; or you'll take advantage of some OFGS [there are more of them then just FRPGames]. Otherwise I'd suggest you buy the pdf. It's time for Hero players to come out of the "I hate pdfs" closet anyway.

No... not true. For one... I don't want a Lexus.

Okay, I am not just making my decision based on my financial situation, but as a consumer, and as a retailer.

I would be very unlikely to sell Gestalt in my store, in this market, at that pricetag. One look at the price... and I don't care how flashy it looks, they won't even look inside the cover.

I'm basing this not only on HERO, but also from a comparison to other companies products as well. It's just not in line with similar products from other companies.

Regardless, people will continue to buy d20 products because of the pricing, as well as the "product recognition factor." D&D is iconic in stature. If you want to compete for those dollars, you have to peak the gamers interest by giving them a reason to look elsewhere.

It's just that simple. In retail, you have to consider these factors:

Price
Marketability of product
Need for product
Resale potential of product (based on 1, 2 & 3)

That $10 will get people to steer right past Gestalt, and grab the latest D&D book. I've watched this time and time again.

Price is a huge determining factor, and if your consumers feel that they are getting a better "bang for the buck"... that's where they will go.

August 19, 2007

Re: Gestalt Player's Guide -- Free Dowload Available

That's because you don't understand the situation that I am in.

The problem is, that when you have a really tight budget, with very little "disposable income"... that little bit of price difference becomes a really chasm to cross. So I have to make some hard decisions.

I just recently purchased the Dark Champions Bundle from HERO... and I had to scrimp and save for 6 months to be able to do that one purchase.

So, I can spend the extra $10, and get Gestalt, or... I can put gas in the car.

I think I'll put gas in the car... since I won't be able to get to work otherwise, and then I really won't have any disposable $$$.

I won't buy from FRPGames.com, and I can't really discuss why, other than I cannot/won't purchase from them again.

So... I guess I have to really weigh the issue, and for now... that $10 is a really BIG issue. I don't buy .pdf books (I prefer the genuine "hard copy"), so that isn't really an option. It would cost more for me to have a printed copy using that avenue of media.

So, for now... that $10 difference is an insurmountable one.

August 19, 2007

Re: Gestalt is Online

This is one of those things I just never understand. You're willing to pay $40.00-$45.00 for a book of that size but asking you to pay $49.95 is out of the question. For $5.00-$10.00 more then your "great value" price you're getting a book that you'll have in your collection for years. You're talking about unwillingness to purchase a book based on the price difference of a McDonalds lunch or a movie theater ticket. That never makes sense to me.

I don't know if the book will be available in OFGS but if it is then you might want to check out FRPGames.com. They'll be selling the book for around $40.00 with about $5.00 in shipping. That'll put it in your "great value" range.