Spideyguy Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 All, I always liked Crusader from the old days of the BBB, and decided to bring him up to date for the new 350-point world. I even decided to give him a nice set of wheels for Christmas. I've posted the Hero Designer files, please let me know what you think. Thanks! P.S. I don't think this is an invasion of intellectual property, but if I'm doing something wrong by posting this stuff, please let me know, and I'll remove it ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spideyguy Posted December 21, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 Let's try this again..... ....with the attachments! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vondy Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 Have you seen the underworld enemies right up for Crusader? Very cool character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spideyguy Posted December 21, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 Crusader Can't say that I have. I also just noticed that attaching his .hdc file in the second post didn't work, so I guess the third time is the charm. I take it Underworld Enemies is an older Champions product? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vondy Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 Re: Crusader Originally posted by Spideyguy Can't say that I have. I also just noticed that attaching his .hdc file in the second post didn't work, so I guess the third time is the charm. I take it Underworld Enemies is an older Champions product? Yes, it was a fourth edition supplement for Dark Champions. The write up for Crusader in it was designed for the street level genre - and was really well done. I've used it for my Crusader ever since. I don't think there isn't much in it that would need to be updated (I might expand his gadget pool a bit and tweak him) to make it compatible with Fred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starblaze Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 Speaking of old Champions characters I made a write-up of StarBurst for 5th edtion. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 Speaking of the Dark Champions Crusader... Anyone ever use Crusade? I took the Batman parallels to the extreme and gave Crusader another sidekick, Squire. Squire was the Nightwing, he had worked with Crusader for years and was just starting out on his own. Crusader began mentoring Crusade, and the two sidekicks didn't get along, when Crusade finally went over the edge, Squire went to track him down. The first fight was very one sided and Squire barely escaped with his life. It was a great run. The final fight included the powered armor character (I don't remember the name but it was the one connected with Crusader...) Squire managed to defeat them both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 I never used Crusade, but I did use Sniper from the first edition Champions Universe, who had a similar relationship to Crusader. When Sniper regained his memories of his assassin days the conflict with his vigilante hero persona drove him off the deep end in a manner similar to Crusade. He did end up killing Crusader, which drew our PC hero team to hunt him down. The challenge was that in regaining his memories Sniper also regained about 150 Char. Pts. worth of Experience from his many years as an assassin, making him a far more dangerous opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 Poor Crusader. I forgot, at the end of the story arc, Squire took the Crusader mantle and he eventually started training another Squire... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starblaze Posted December 27, 2003 Report Share Posted December 27, 2003 How many people here remember the combat example from the Hero System 4th edition that had Crusader and Starburst fighting Ogre and his henchmen? Hey Steve, how come you didn't put that in Fred? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted December 27, 2003 Report Share Posted December 27, 2003 I always found that combat example to be very useful to inculcating newcomers to the HERO System. I'm hoping that there are one or two examples of combat in Sidekick, preferably one for heroic and one for superheroic combat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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