shadowcat1313 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 http://navy-matters.beedall.com/mufc.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Re: Shadowcats Vehicular Insanity Shop: The Strangest Submarine design kinda silly your mix attack with a boomer especially if you are going to use it to place infiltration units ashore or near enemy units besides you can place synthetic passive sonar on the hull to give you a better view with out having a tail to worry about only 4 trident D5 is only 1/4 of the Vanguard class and to have the same throw wt of tridents you are going to need 16 of them to replace the 4 that are already in service that is up to 32 crews needed and who is going to order a boomer to hunt other subs I can see a combo of a ssbn and a ssgn but both of these types of boats are ment to reach out an touch somebody never to get into knife fighting range an Ohio SSBN has 24 tubes(22x7 tomahawks plus lockout for seals on the ssgn conversions) so going with a split load of SLBMx8 tubes and 8tubes each with 7 tomahawks would give a better balance but would still be a boat that does not get close to the enemy this sound like a politico trying to combine systems and make a jack of all trades and master of none Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowcat1313 Posted February 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Re: Shadowcats Vehicular Insanity Shop: The Strangest Submarine design looking at the picture, it sorta reminds me of the penguin submarine from the 60's Batman Movie ooooh.. the Evil Captain Platypus has his new vehicle!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brionl Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Re: Shadowcats Vehicular Insanity Shop: The Strangest Submarine design Frankly, the ecological niche for ballistic missile submarines is pretty damn small these days. Vertical Launch Tubes are standard equipment in attack subs these days, and if they launch ballistic missiles in addition to the cruise missiles that are frequently used, why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Re: Shadowcats Vehicular Insanity Shop: The Strangest Submarine design you don't send boomers into harms way the converted Ohio class had 24x Trident 2 D-5 SLBM when they went to being infiltration boats they took off all the Trident D-5s and replaced 2 of the launch tubes with a lock out system for delivering commandos and their equipment for platoon strength the other 22 tubes got shortened and each now holds 7 cruise missiles the longest ranged cruise missles have a 2500 km range with a 200kt warhead or 250 mile range with a 1000lb HE or bomblet dispenser the Trident D5 has a range of 4000 miles why go down to 1/4 your throw weight if you have no plans on reducing your force below 64 missiles with 4 subs for those cruise missiles to be of use the sub will need to be in or near the white sea or in the Black sea to hit deep inside Russia(no other real targets unless you go after India or China if these subs launch there is a good chance their location will be given away do you risk giving an unlaunched D-5's location away in a conflict that had peopel shooting? Frankly' date=' the ecological niche for ballistic missile submarines is pretty damn small these days. Vertical Launch Tubes are standard equipment in attack subs these days, and if they launch ballistic missiles in addition to the cruise missiles that are frequently used, why not?[/quote'] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristopher Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Re: Shadowcats Vehicular Insanity Shop: The Strangest Submarine design Looks like a typical trendy and stupid "cram all jobs into one platform" military project that's all the rage from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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