bigbywolfe Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 Re: PSLs, Combat Manuevers, penalties, etc. I'm not sure why CSLs are being suggested. I think this is just +X DCV' date=' where X is the max your DCV could normally be, with the limitation that it only applies to counter half DCV from (situation/situations). I think you would need some for of Desolidification to avoid entangles setting you to DCV 0 as mentioned above, though.[/quote'] Why are we including Entangles in a conversation about grappling? They are not only different mechanically but different (usually) SFX wise as well. I don't think being tied hand and foot, stuck in a glue bomb, or even simply hand-cuffed/shackled equate at all to the situation faced when grappling whether as the grabber or grabby, whether we are talking real world/"realistic" or in terms of game mechanics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prestidigitator Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 Re: PSLs, Combat Manuevers, penalties, etc. I don't think I'd give a DCV penalty (besides maybe the one for the Grab maneuever itself in the Phase you execute it) when/while you are Grabbing a willing, inanimate, or unconscious/helpless target; I'd only use it if you are engaged in a competitive grappling contest (where you're having to make contested Str rolls). Actually that might be a good one to pass by Steve Long. I think I will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 Re: PSLs, Combat Manuevers, penalties, etc. I don't think I'd give a DCV penalty (besides maybe the one for the Grab maneuever itself in the Phase you execute it) when/while you are Grabbing a willing, inanimate, or unconscious/helpless target; I'd only use it if you are engaged in a competitive grappling contest (where you're having to make contested Str rolls). Actually that might be a good one to pass by Steve Long. I think I will. Yet you still can't teleport with an unconscious person without buying UAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodkins Odds Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 Re: PSLs, Combat Manuevers, penalties, etc. I know, that part has never made sense to me. Why can't I pick up the unconscious innocent bystander and teleport him to safety if I have x2 Mass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 Re: PSLs, Combat Manuevers, penalties, etc. I know' date=' that part has never made sense to me. Why can't I pick up the unconscious innocent bystander and teleport him to safety if I have x2 Mass? [/quote']Maybe they want you to kill him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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