TheFool1972 Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Ya know... Parts of this game system remind me of parts of the Alternity game system. Nothing specific, just in general. Kind of like the way palladium reminds me of D&D. By the way, yes, I know the Champions came out before Alternity. That doesn't stop them from being vaguly similar... I don't know wether to be nostalgic or slightly unsettled... The Fool "StarDrive space opera, Hero style..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Neilson Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Go with unsettled. Alternity isn't near old enough to be a nostalgia item. And I see a lot of resemblance in the Mutants & Masterminds text to Hero products, so it's not an uncommon feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prestidigitator Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 I see a lot of resemblence between all of 3-3.5 ed. D&D and the Hero System that was not present in previous editions of D&D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 When D&D 3e came out my gaming group read the writeups on it and said the same thing: "So it's become Champions or GURPS now?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prestidigitator Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Originally posted by Blue When D&D 3e came out my gaming group read the writeups on it and said the same thing: "So it's become Champions or GURPS now?" LOL. Yep. But still with a stupid leveling and class system, and without Powers or generic Character Points. What's the point, other than a lot of source material being published for this still backwards system? That's why I am working on creating simple and fast conversion rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEmerged Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 If you think d20 (3rd Ed or 3.5) has HERO elements, you should take a look at the "Alternity" system TSR developed not long before d20. It *very* much resembles an attempt to wed 2nd Edition DnD with HERO, and has an interesting curving randomizer system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dust Raven Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 D&D 3e is not a bad system. Certainly it's more restrictive... I should say "structured." There's nothing inherantly wrong with it. Ultimately it's no different than having most of the metagaming the GM does taken care of for him. The downside is that it's very difficult to modify (at least compaired to Hero). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFool1972 Posted October 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 Seems alot of you guys think Alternity is related to d20. Really, after playing both for years, I have to say they are nothing alike. The only thing similar is the use of a d20, and they are used way differantly. Alternity looks like it's closer to hero than d20... Really. The Fool "Apple, oranges... I like grapefruit!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEmerged Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 Originally posted by TheFool1972 Seems alot of you guys think Alternity is related to d20. Really, after playing both for years, I have to say they are nothing alike. The only thing similar is the use of a d20, and they are used way differantly. Alternity looks like it's closer to hero than d20... Really. I know, it's one of the reason Alternity is on the short list of systems I've run more than one system. The HERO elements are *really* noticeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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