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Re: Social Limitation: Legacy
Just ask "The Whizzer IV"
Pfft. He's no Whizzer III. Now there was a hero.
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Re: Social Limitation: Legacy
Legacy is really composed of three parts:Reputation: Legacy
Psych Lim: Legacy Code of Conduct
Hunted: Legacy villains
Possibly also
Watched: Legacy
Which would indicate that they were being watched to ensure that they were living up to their legacy.
I used to have a "legacy" character in a game (she was rather fixated on a well-known hero in town who disappeared, then took his place), and this is pretty much how I handled it.
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Re: Social Limitation: Legacy
Except that Reputation relies on a roll of the dice to see it kicks in, and isn't really general enough. Going by that, you could give the guy some rather dubious reps all lined up: Rep1: Atomizer gives interviews. Rep 2. Atomizer drinks his coffee Black. Rep 3. Atomizer prefers dogs over cats...etc. I don't know too many GMs that would let those fly for 5 or 10 points a pop
Yes, well, all silliness aside, I'd never suggest that those should be worth anything, but having a Reputation as a friendly hero should be worth something. The average crook on the street might say "Yeah, that's him-- that's Atomizer. Y'know, the one who's always on TV. Seems like a nice guy. You act hurt while I sneak up from behind him." And you might apply the Reputation roll to see if they know him. The media, however, would know him automatically, no die roll required. I don't think there's any need to always roll, every time, if it's not justified.
The point is folks might assume that Atomizer II does everything his predesor did the way he did. They would apply their own preconceptions on him without need of a die roll.Assuming they recognize him. Thus, the die roll for Reputation.
Sure, Atomizer can start acting abruptly differently and get a negative disad to replace it, but it would be like going down a check list. Only time and situation would naturally clear it up.Again, I'm not suggesting he should get a Reputation for being the superhero that puts on his tights both legs at once. That's silly. I'm talking about one Disad being altered-- once-- to reflect the fact that he's putting his own stamp on the name.
BTW, what does Atomizer do, anyway? Spray people with perfume? Flash v. Smell/Taste Group, I'd say, with a Linked AoE EB, NND (Defense is Self-Contained Breathing or No Respiratory System).
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Re: Social Limitation: Legacy
People constantly thinking you're an inferior version of your parent/grandparent/sibling? Police disrespecting you because they don't feel you live up to the legacy of parent/grandparent/sibling? Public beliving you're a disgrace to the legacy of said parent/grandparent/sibling if you do the slightest thing wrong?See how it's a Social Limitation now?
This is, of course, assuming that the PC in question is always inferior and a disgrace. However, most of these can easily apply to Joe Everyhero, as well, even if they're not the successor to a famous hero title. If Superman starts acting like an a-hole (can I say asshole on here?), there'll be a public backlash even if the only name he's failing to live up to is his own.
Sounds like your arguement is saying they'd end up developing a Psychological lmitation BECAUSE of the Social Limitation. That doesn't mean the Social Lim is inappropriate.I'm just reasoning from effect here. IMO, the real difficulty comes from within in these situations, with few exceptions that I can think of.
"NONSense, Atomizer always gives interviews..." The Mayor chuckled, "Smile now..."This strikes me as a function of Reputation. Atomizer could up and leave the press conference. If he does this enough, he'd probably develop a different Reputation (Unfriendly Asshole).
"Yeah, as Windy, the real Maelstrom's sidekick. He was a grown man with decades of experience... I'd take a chance on him, but I'm not going to gamble that hostage's life on an 18 year old girl getting it right..."This, I'm starting to buy-- although I wouldn't trust that punk Maelstrom II, either. My own theory is that she killed Maelstrom so she wouldn't have to be called "Windy" anymore.
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Re: Social Limitation: Legacy
Heroman has just saved Millennium City from Mechanon's latest scheme.
"Great work Heroman!" Says the Mayor.
"Thanks." says Heroman, beaming from ear to ear.
"It reminds me of when your brother, Herodude, saved the world!"
Heroman's smile fades at the comparison... how will he ever live up to that?!
Okay. That's a Psych Lim. He feels pressured to live up to Herodude's name. See, if it weren't a Psych Lim, it would've gone like this:
Heroman has just saved Millennium City from Mechanon's latest scheme.
"Great work Heroman!" Says the Mayor.
"Thanks." says Heroman, beaming from ear to ear.
"It reminds me of when your brother, Herodude, saved the world!"
"Yeah, he was great, wasn't he?"
I still don't see how any of this is a Social Lim. Someone please explain to me how everyone in Hero City could expect you to live up to Hero X's reputation without that causing a great deal of pressure within you, Hero X II, to live up to their expectations.
How is it a Social Lim? Are you not allowed to vote? Waiters won't serve you? Forced to sit at the back of the bus?
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Re: Social Limitation: Legacy
I really see this more as a combination of Psych Lim: Feels Pressured To Live Up To Family Name and Reputation: Son/Daughter of X (both as a Perk and a Disad). If the Social Lim were to come in at all, IMO, I think it should be as Famous (if not Public ID).
My two quatloos.
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Re: Clerks... Uh... I mean HEROES!
That was pretty funny...But, if DD doesn't like mutant psychics--anyone else notice what he was reading...? (%)
I don't think he was "reading" in the traditional sense. Besides, he clearly likes mutant psychics. He just doesn't like them knowing what he's thinking about them....
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Re: Need some name suggestions please
Okay, then.
The Canucks?
Citywide Disposal Services?
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Microsoft?
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Re: Need some name suggestions please
How about the Tiger-Cats? White Sox?
Er... sorry, nothing useful here. Move along.
The Hex?
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Re: Blend of Beast and Forge
Complimentary skills could be Electronics, Inventory, Deduction.
You, my friend, need a vacation.
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Re: Blend of Beast and Forge
Electronics, Systems Operation, Security Systems, KS: Electrical Devices, KS: Computer Operating Systems... is there a Computer Use skill or something, or am I confusing that with Star Wars? I'm drawing a blank right now.
I'm not sure how much is necessary in the way of PS, though. PS: Computer Programmer means he knows how to go out and get a job as a computer programmer, and so on, but it wouldn't necessarily grant him any actual skill when it comes to computers.
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Re: Affects Solid World
Not disagreeing with you, but this seems odd to me. Aren't Desolids normally still affected by mental and BOECV powers? If so, shouldn't they, by default, be able to use mental/BOECV powers themselves while Desolid?
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Re: Silver Age Superteam Archetypes?
Probably the best (certainly the most creative) GM in San Diego lives, what, maybe 10 miles north of me? And I can never seem to get into one of his games. TANJ.
I hear you, sister. Er... yeah.
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Re: X-Men Evolution
But... X-Men: Evolution came out after the first X-Men movie.
If you're referring to the X-Men cartoon from the '90s, then okay, I buy that. I watched as much of that as I could get away with. That and the '90s Spider-Man cartoon (which, along with the Anti-Gravity Room on YTV in Canada, got me into comics and Champions).
As for answering the OP's question, I dunno. I haven't watched much of Evolution, because I just didn't think it was very good. *shrug*
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Re: Electrical power affects???
Isn't there some Advantage that makes a power, like, more difficult to, y'know, dispel?
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Re: "Object Past Life" psionic power
*shrug* Looks fine to me, more or less.
Is Retrocognition normally No Range by default? If not, there's another -1/2 right there.
On the NCC, does it happen everytime he touches an object, or just whenever the GM wants? I'm guessing the latter, because the former would be debilitating, but I thought I'd make sure.
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Re: Giant Character Help
Well... I don't think anyone said anything about Mystique, or even Shapeshift at all. I think he's talking about self alteration, sans Shapeshifting.
Even still, I don't see what the problem is. Get Growth, Stretching, Shrinking, etc. and put it in an EC instead of a Multipower, then get Running and the AoE HA both Linked to Growth.
Is there something else at issue? Is the concern that it'll cost too much? Because I still don't think it will. I have a character with most of these powers, plus Teleportation, built on 350, and he's just fine.
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Re: Giant Character Help
MultipowerSuccinct and to the point. Unlike my answer.
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Re: Giant Character Help
I don't really see what the problem is. Seems fairly straighforward.
1. Buy the Growth, Stretching, Shrinking, etc. in a Multipower.
2. Buy additional Running and a one-hex AoE HA, both linked to Growth.
The Multiform is really unnecessary and inappropriate, IMO, because it's not like he's a different person-- he's still the same guy, with the same skills and abilities, just bigger.
350 is plenty of points to build this guy. Also, I think he'll be quite useful and versatile, in and out of combat.
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Re: Silver Age Superteam Archetypes?
If only you'd get over your "I dont RolePlay on the weekends" hang up we could get a cool game going. Bring in Black Rose, Rick, and mayapuppies and we could have a Forumite group
(Missed this in the edit.)
Actually, my anti-weekend stance has lessened considerably. The thing I was doing on weekends isn't happening anymore, so it's not totally out of the question to game on weekends these days. Bring it on!
But not this weekend, because it's Comic-Con. And not two weeks from now, because I'll be in Denver. And the weekend after that is the GameFest thing. Otherwise, it's possible.
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Re: Silver Age Superteam Archetypes?
Notice how we are never seen in the same place? I suspect a conspiracy.This is true. We could be each other for all we know.
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Re: Swaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarm!!!
I'd use Area Effect attacks (including explosions). Anything else just doesn't hit enough bees to matter.So you'd make his Desolid is vulnerable to all AoE attacks? Interesting. I like that. Elegant.
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Re: Silver Age Superteam Archetypes?
I still think you secretly scan my brain' date=' freak that you are. Maybe one of us is an android with the brain patterns of the other. So long as I get the Scarlet Witch, I dont care which of us is the 'droid[/quote']This is all the more baffling considering (for the benefit of those in the audience) we live in the same town, but we've never met.
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Re: Silver Age Superteam Archetypes?
Why not mix it up and lose the stereotypes? Try this:Flightless brick/MA, Captain America-style
Have this character by the caught-in-her-own experiment geniue scientist
But that's silly! Girls can't fight!
Seriously, some of them diverge from the source influences more than others. The Martian Manhunter type is a female, for example. When thinking of a MM analogue, I kept getting images of MM himself, so I deliberately made him a her to prevent me from making an out-and-out clone. My one saving grace is that, as I said, I'm not intimately familiar with Silver Age comics, so if I come up with a well-worn character concept on my own, it'll be because it's in the collective geek consciousness and not due to deliberate theft.
And while I like the Green Lantern type as a lithe young female (in general, I prefer lithe young females, to be honest with you...), I need to keep the light manipulator as-is. She's based on/is my first Champions character, and my ego won't be denied.
Or maybe I'll ditch these characters altogether, and have a group of heroes named Steel Leg, Iron Shirt, Flying Vest, Hook Leg....
Social Limitation: Legacy
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Re: Social Limitation: Legacy
There's no chance he won't be recognized? Everyone will always have to know him on sight? He's burrowed his way into the collective conciousness of humanity to such a degree that no one can ever not know him?
Let's say he's not a legacy hero. How do you represent an absolute like that? Arguably, someone like Superman might fall into this category. Of course, in most comics, everyone always recognizes the hero anyway, because it's his book!