Blau Stern

Re: Gods with Off Switches vs. Loaded Guns. DC vs. Marvel in Character Design. And I disagree, because Superman is literally surrounded by characters his power grade.

Re: Gods with Off Switches vs. Loaded Guns. DC vs. Marvel in Character Design. I wouldn't call it corrupted, especially since each of the changes you mentioned take place in a different universe. As I've said, some characters, as well as some character concepts, have no place in a low level campaign. Superman is one of these. Dr. Manhattan is a miserable.... erm... I can't actually use the word I want to use for him. Plenty of insanely powerful characters (who also will not fit in 250 points) have found cheer, happiness, and that mystical fun thing. Like Thor, are you going to try to tell me he wasn't having fun fighting all those frost giants? Dr. Manhattan was Captain Atom, if Captain Atom were nearly a suicidal depressive, and he honestly thought the future was set in stone. That's patently false. I can think of literally hundreds of points of disadvantages that would still leave the character playable. A)Yes, what do you think the Justice League is? B)How is this a problem? You gather together big time heroes to deal with big time problems and fiction has provided us hundreds of cosmic villains. That denotes a chance of failure. I've never seen a comic book where Jimmy called for Superman and Superman failed to show up, unless it was one of those grimderp books. Actually it would be because I'm still contributing and I don't have to do everything myself, which is a pleasant change of pace all things told.

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Re: Gods with Off Switches vs. Loaded Guns. DC vs. Marvel in Character Design. Then call it what it is: A Superman-style character, rather than saying "this is THE Superman".

Re: Gods with Off Switches vs. Loaded Guns. DC vs. Marvel in Character Design. Except that Silver Age Superman isn't a starting character and even Golden Age Superman wasn't built on "starting points", he doesn't even fit in most "starting point" values. Massey's Superman was Silver Age, not Golden Age, he stated it himself, and Silver Age Superman started off flying. Silver Age Superman also started off with several years of experience, what with not having been rebooted or anything. My Jimmy Olsen works perfectly, because he is built to summon Massey's Superman. You aren't interested in modeling the background characters, you know, in case one of the players decides they want to play that character? Also, if you want to build it as a player character, build on player character points, and keep in mind that not every character is meant to be a player character, in fact most aren't. Most roleplayers (aside from rollplayers) don't complain when there is a more powerful character in the party, so long as there is still something they can bring to the table. For example DC characters are relatively lacking in the good-aligned psychics, mad scientists, and technopaths, if my character was a technopath in the DCU, I'd never complain that I'd been put on the Justice League that had Superman, Wonder Woman, Captain Atom (who actually possesses some tech-manipulation powers), Martian Manhunter (who also possesses some powers that can be used on machines), and Batman. Why? Because my character's technopathy does things the others simply cannot do, even though my character isn't anywhere near as powerful as the rest of the group.

Re: Gods with Off Switches vs. Loaded Guns. DC vs. Marvel in Character Design.

Re: Gods with Off Switches vs. Loaded Guns. DC vs. Marvel in Character Design. No, they built things that wish they were the source characters, while simultaneously slapping them in the proverbial face.

Re: Gods with Off Switches vs. Loaded Guns. DC vs. Marvel in Character Design. The same thing that makes me think it's isn't incredibly dumb:nothing. Look, maybe you guys don't care about scale, but I do, and I find it insulting to the source material. You can't build everything on 250 points, because not everything is made the same.

Re: Gods with Off Switches vs. Loaded Guns. DC vs. Marvel in Character Design. Might as well try building Galactus on 250 points.

Re: Gods with Off Switches vs. Loaded Guns. DC vs. Marvel in Character Design. Yes, they are dead serious. Completely, 100%, that is Silver Age "Superman". He can't even pick up a decent-sized boat.

Re: Gods with Off Switches vs. Loaded Guns. DC vs. Marvel in Character Design. I'm good with escapism, I'm fine with Batman having wacky adventures. I'm not fine with the faux-realistic elements of Batman. That his enemies are easily-predicted psychopaths instead of guys like time-traveling cavemen, criminals who rob banks using giant robots, etc. that bothers me. If he's the master of plans, then let his enemies be something he genuinely can't plan for, except in the broadest sense. I'd also like them to be more entertaining than "ugly schmuck with a gun and mental issues #65135168761357".

Re: KX's Character Thread I think he's a incredibly frail. His DCV isn't amazing, his defenses aren't very high, and he's only got 30 stun. You have more points, spend them on those, because at this level, you are going to be taking lots of body, even against people in your "weight bracket". I also think his damage might be a little low. I'm almost not sure I see the purpose of your Teleportation ability, it's only slightly faster than your Basic Teleportation, and I think someone with the ability to teleport to other dimensions should be able to go significantly faster than that. I also think your "between the planes" powers could simply be swept into you teleportation multipower.

Re: Gods with Off Switches vs. Loaded Guns. DC vs. Marvel in Character Design. If Batman really had plans for defeating his enemies, then his enemies would never make it out of Arkham Asylum, but they do, every time. That or his plans are really, really, really bad, because it seems he always has to improvise. Most of Batman's villains are incredibly easy to predict. Where are you going to find Mr. Freeze? Someplace cold. Where are you going to find Joker? Someplace you might find clowns. Where are you going to find Penguin? Someplace expensive. There comes a point where you have to realize Batman isn't very good at what he does, but he still has plans to defeat all of his friends. The last competent Batman was Adam West.

Re: Gods with Off Switches vs. Loaded Guns. DC vs. Marvel in Character Design. Batman doesn't NEED plans to defeat all of his friends (but no plans to defeat all of his enemies, go figure), but he has them.

Re: Gods with Off Switches vs. Loaded Guns. DC vs. Marvel in Character Design. I don't see him moving small boats, much less planets. My Jimmy Olsen, Silver Age.

Re: Why Your Heroes Shouldn't Kill I wasn't going to say it was volunteers helping out their god-king..... but it was volunteers helping out their god-king. He brought the rain, the harvest, and the sun. In exchange, the peasants built him a fancy house for his corpse. And this is why I think religion is silly, but I'm not about to disrespect it any further than that, because I'm not that big a jerk.

Re: Gods with Off Switches vs. Loaded Guns. DC vs. Marvel in Character Design. He's not doing it with a 40 strength that's for sure. I'm not sure who spread the rumor that "opinions can't be wrong" but that is an outright lie, because they can be based on bad information or simply poorly-formed. Heck, things we understand as FACTS can be wrong, because they are poorly formed or based on bad information.

Re: Gods with Off Switches vs. Loaded Guns. DC vs. Marvel in Character Design. The gist of my objection is simply: these write-ups do not match what I know he's capable of, they might be the same power set, but they are not even close to the right scale. Oddly enough, I think the fight between Spider-Man and Firelord was appropriate, in that it -could- happen. Should it? Heavens no, Firelord isn't that dumb.... or at least I don't think he is, but if he were dumb enough to hang around, and let himself get beat on by a guy in Spider-Man's weight class, he's gonna run out of steam eventually.

Re: Gods with Off Switches vs. Loaded Guns. DC vs. Marvel in Character Design. I've seen Spider-Man get his arm broken by Jigsaw, the Punisher villain with no super powers, just an ugly mug. Sometimes comics are really inconsistent. You really don't want to use weird extremes like this when building a character, unless they happen repeatedly. That said, Marvel Tons don't make a heck of a lot of sense, but they almost invariably mean "a heck of a lot more than what they say they are" the lightest rail car in existence is like 17 tons, ergo Spider-Man cannot wield it like a baseball bat.

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Re: Why Your Heroes Shouldn't Kill Smaller communities tend to want to help each other more and if that means serving said community by joining the incredibly small military doesn't sound like that bad an idea. Keep in mind "most" =/= "all". Most = <50%. Further exacerbated by the fact that you don't get to vote in some places, unless you serve.

Re: Calling all lawyers--Supers and unique legal issues

Re: Gods with Off Switches vs. Loaded Guns. DC vs. Marvel in Character Design. Imagine how I feel.

Re: Calling all lawyers--Supers and unique legal issues Actually, I'm assuming that the record shows that he's only been executed, by the American legal system, 3 times. Pay no attention to the fact that some of the records could have been expunged. A guy like that has probably been executed dozens, maybe even hundreds of times, not including the times he's gotten himself killed in one stupid stunt or another. Immortality has taught him nothing. There's always a way to kill someone, even if that means separating them from their immortality, you just have to do the extra work.

Re: Gods with Off Switches vs. Loaded Guns. DC vs. Marvel in Character Design. I feel like I've been here before. Have we been here before? Most heroes can survive on their own merits, it's why they have these things called "solo titles", unfortunately I'm not seeing any heroes here.