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  2. Religion in Science-Fiction?

    in Star Hero

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    Re: Religion in Science-Fiction?

     

    Giordano Bruno was NOT an urban myth. He was a real person who was executed, as in burned at the stake, for suggesting the sun was a star like others and that other stars could harbor life-bearing planets as ours does. Look it up!

     

    When was this? I have never heard that before, but I know the church hasn't had anyone burned at the stake for a long time. Maybe it's just my ignorance of how long the idea of aliens has been in popular conscious.

     

     

    As for what "mainstream" Christianity denies, for starters you have evolution which the majority of Christians in the US denies which include all the GOP candidates for President. That's a bit more than a fringe group. It's not mentioned in their Bible yet it has been proven true.

     

    I have never heard any of the candidates deny that evolution exists. Nor has any preacher in any church I've ever attended. The majority of Christians does not deny evolution. What we deny is the idea that it's all a random accident.

     

    Part of why SF assumes that religions will die out is looking at current trends. In the past few hundred years scientific discoveries have hacked away at the authority and claims of the church. For example science has shown the universe does not need a creator and was not created as described in holy books. In most civilized parts of the world, the influence of religion has been decreasing as more people either don't take it as literally or even leave it all together. With science, people have come to expect more proof than a collection of books selected by a committee can provide. As the demand for solid evidence increases those who cannot provide it will wane in influence and size. SF also looks at past trends. The religions of the ancient Greeks and Egyptians also endured thousands of years but they have died out as well only to be replaced. Why should today's faiths be exempt from that pattern? So I guess a better question should be, why do you assume today's religion would continue to endure when so many others have faded away?

     

     

    OK, that is a good point. Other religions have faded out and died away..well, not completely. I had a friend in college who was an Odinist. But the reason I believe my religion will endure is because I believe it is true. You do not, which is your opinion and you're entitled to it. But, by the same token, you have to admit that those religions were replaced by a different religion, not by a lack of religion. So, even if it's not the religions we know, what makes you so sure there won't be a belief system of some kind as long as humanity endures?

  3. Alien Jedi's

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    Re: Alien Jedi's

     

    Any sentient being with Force abilities can be trained as a Jedi. The Sith rules on non-humans change depending on the writer. There has never yet been an Ewok Jedi in cannon (as far as I know), but there is at least one in my timeline set 1000 years after the movies.

  4. Religion in Science-Fiction?

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    Well if your god sent his ONLY son to Earth to save humanity' date=' who saved the aliens? The OT never mentioned aliens and the only sentient non-humans he supposedly created were angels. Aliens present a problem in that they are something your god did not create exists. I remember reading about a monk who was executed for thinking aliens existed.[/quote']

     

    Executed or excommunicated? If the former, then it has to be an urban legend, because there's no way that would happen in any era where the idea of aliens would even come up. As for the rest, and the other responses I've gotten, it's true that the Bible does not directly mention aliens. Nor does it say that they DON'T exist, either. And science has discovered several things not in the Bible (dinosaurs, nuclear power, other planets) that aren't mentioned in the Bible without destroying Abrahamic religion. As for the idiots who deny the existence of such things, they are a fringe group, not mainstream Christianity. And just because Jesus is God's only Son doesn't mean Earth is the only world where He manifested. Every planet with sentient life may have had it's own Jesus (please realize here that I am working off the idea that my religion is the correct one. if you disagree, that's OK, but you're not going to convice me I'm wrong and I'm not going to convince you that you're wrong. so let's not argue.), or it could be humanity's mission to spread the Word throughout the Universe. I don't know, and I probably never will during my lifetime. Still, it doesn't expalin why so much science fiction just assumes that religions that have endured thousands of years will die out in the next couple of hundred. Or won't be able to weather the next few scintific discoveries as they have so many before.

  5. Religion in Science-Fiction?

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    Re: Religion in Science-Fiction?

     

    ---snip---I think the biggest challenge to contemporary-style religion in a sci-fi setting would simply be the existence of other sapient species in the universe' date=' since that would throw the current thinking of most religions for a major loop.[/quote']

     

    Why? Speaking as a Christian, I fail to understand how the existence of alien races elsewhere in the universe conflicts, in any way, with my religion. Yes, I believe there are other races out there. Yes, I believe God created them as well as us. Yes, I believe they are also created in His image. Does that mean they physically resemble us? Not necessarily. I belive being in God's image means we are thinking, feeling, loving, cerebral, emotional beings. I do not understand, and never have understood, this theory in science fiction, that first contact with an alien race would cause such devastating problems for religion. Can someone explain this to me?

  8. All-Winners Squad

    in Champions

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    Re: All-Winners Squad

     

    You caught me, it's the same world in different eras. You could be Hyperman in one and Hyperman Jr in the other if you wanted, although it might be tough to make Hyperman with so few pts.

     

    --Kap

     

    Trueness. If I decide to play in both, I'll come up with something else for the Golden Age (with your approval of course). But you realize that in order for Hyperman Jr. to be the character I envinsion, Hyperman needs to be around in the Golden Age. As a background NPC of course. If it's cool with you, I'd love to collaborate with you on where he is and what he's doing, far away from the PCs' adventures.

  9. All-Winners Squad

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    Hey, itsalwayssunny, is this campaign in any way connected to the Silver Age campaign I'm going to be involved in? Like maybe being the past of campaign? If so, perhaps I could play the original Hyperman. And all I have to change would be the psylims, occupation, and one of the hunteds.

  12. World's Finest

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    Re: World's Finest

     

    I was thinking 1960 as the starting year.

     

    Point totals would probably be 100 base pts. & 100-150 from disadvantages.

     

    I intend to tailor the plots to suit the characters so raw power really doesn't matter so much as roleplaying and fun. Thus, Aquaman and Superman can have a fun team-up where both have something to do...or Hyperman and Belladonna, as the case may be.

     

    --Kap

     

    OK, so Hyperman, Jr. (even though he hates that name and is trying to come up with soemthing better). 100 pts. + 150 Disads. (Dad, of course, would be built on AT LEAST 500 pts. if I'm playing the son). I'm thinking typical flying brick, probably enhanced senses (including N-Ray Vision) and maybe an EB. I'm gonna start building him tonight using 5th Ed. Hero Designer. And I will be keeping the build as simple as possible.

  13. World's Finest

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    Re: World's Finest

     

    The character I was thinking of is Hyperman (working title, may change it), world's first and best-loved superhero. Wife as a DNPC, son (Hyperboy) and daughter (Hypergirl) as followers. But now I'm thinking it may be even more fun to play the son. Trying to get out form under his dad's shadow while at the same time living up to the name. What time period are we talking about? If it's the '50s, he would still be a teenager, but if it's the '60s, he could be a full-grown man in his own right. Also, have you thought about point totals and such?

  14. World's Finest

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    Re: World's Finest

     

    Sounds like it could be lots of fun, and I actually have a couple characters in mind who might fit the bill. Are we talking about doing this through Hero Central or what? If so, I need to re-register there as there's no way I can remember my old ID and password. Itsalwayssunny, how would you feel about a character who is a hold-over from the Golden Age? I'm thinking something liek Earth-2 Superman.

  15. World's Finest

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    Re: World's Finest

     

    ---snip---I was thinking about trying to do "Untold Cases of the Silver Age Justice League" using the 1960ish lineup of Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Superman, Batman, and I'm forgetting #7 right now..---snip---

     

    That would be Martian Manhunter.

  22. What do you think of supervillain teams?

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    Re: What do you think of supervillain teams?

     

    I personally love villain teams. Gives me somthing to throw at the heroes that has the same advantages they do. Diversity, teamwork, etc. Plus, there are several reasons for such teams to get together and stay together. Some are mercenary groups that work well together and maybe even like each other. Some are made up of the individual villains of the PCs, banded together to keep their enemies from ganging up on them. One is the villainous equivalent of the Fantastic Four. Not power-wise, but that they are basicly a super-family, just on the other side of the law.

  23. WWYCD: I've been relaunched/Rebooted!

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    Re: WWYCD: I've been relaunched/Rebooted!

     

    Voltage would be back in high school, and sidekicking for Steel Centurian. On the bad side, he's too young for beer and college girls now. On the good side, he's away from the strangest group of superheroes ever gathered. As for family, his parents have been dead for a few years and he was still in college when the change occured, so no family of his own. Either Centurian or his wife would now be of a different ethnicity, and it would be a mixed marriage. Voltage himself would still have the blue skin and no hair. Costume would be an updated version of the "spandex" one he wore previously. His biggest concern would be finding out the status of certain well-known and long-standing heroes and villains (especially Viper and Dr. Destroyer) in a world where superheroes have only been known for five years. It also brings his own origin into question, as it's heavily tied in to Viper's activities just before his birth, and the fact that his father was a supervillain who retired before he was born.

  24. WWE Snark-Free Zone

    in Non-Gaming Discussion

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    Re: WWE Snark-Free Zone

     

    At Summerslam, CM Punk beats John Cena only for Kevin Nash to run in and powerbomb him. At this point Alberto Del Rio comes in to cash in his Money in the Bank briefcase to win the title. Thus CM Punk's reign didn't last one PPV and something I wanted to happen was spoiled by the presence of Kevin Nash.

     

     

    SMURFITY SMURF SMURF!!

     

    Well put. In the immortal words of Farooq, "...DAMN!"

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