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Re: The Incredible Hulk

Nice Hulks. I'm not sure about giving too many versions Martial Arts. Very few Hulks ever display any real talent for fighting. Neither does Banner until just recently.

Re: Need another name for Juggernaut...

My Juggernaut clone is named Ragnarok. You could also use Magog, Goliath, Supreme, Doomsday...

Re: Single Most Powerful Super Hero EVER!!!

If you didn't read it....it's Avengers 197 to 199. Beast crawled inside Ronin via a broken hatch a la Wonder Man -- and he pulled the plug.

Re: Single Most Powerful Super Hero EVER!!!

Red Ronin was also defeated by the Beast (not 60 feet tall) after pounding the Avengers around New York for 2 and 1/2 issues.

Re: Single Most Powerful Super Hero EVER!!!

Point. I am just thinking that Godzilla doesn't have enough fights to have the best record. Winning 10 fights and then disappearing does not actually give you a better record than a guy who has been in thousands and won most of them.

Re: Single Most Powerful Super Hero EVER!!!

Are you sure about Godzilla? I'm not even sure he has had enough fights. In all honesty, it is probably Spider-Man.

Re: Single Most Powerful Super Hero EVER!!!

No one wins every fight nor does raw power make the difference in every fight. Absorbing Man fought the Avengers to a stand still (a roster including Vision, Iron Man, Ms Marvel, Quicksilver & the Scarlet Witch) but then lost to Ant-Man in a subsequent fight.

Re: Single Most Powerful Super Hero EVER!!!

GoldenAge: I have. And I think a lot of the same names are proposed. What I meant is that there really is a short list of contenders for the title of most powerful super hero ever. Think about it....

It is just the top tier bricks, energy projectors, and mystics that are being discussed.

Re: Single Most Powerful Super Hero EVER!!!

This is such an open-ended question. Kurt Busiek once commented on the Avengers Mailing List that no hero is the most powerful at everything. That said,

the contenders are without discussion.

DC: Superman (ultra-powerful pre-crisis version), Martian Manhunter, Green Lantern (with Ion force), Flash (Wally West)

Marvel: Thor (with Odinforce), Phoenix III (Rachel Summers), Captain Marvel/Photon (Monica Rambeau), Hulk, Doctor Strange

Independent: Victor (Hero Alliance)

Of course, the best win-loss records in comics might easily be held by Batman, Hawkeye, and Spider-Man.

Re: Micro Heroes!

The only ones I've ever seen are Foxbat, Grond, Fiacho & Durak.

Re: PC costume creator

Egyptoid,

I have looked at Fabrica de Heroix recently. I can't figure out how to save or print.

Re: Micro Heroes!

Very good Micros. Are you thinking of doing any of the heroes or villains from the Champions Universe? And do you post to any of the Micro-Hero siteS?

Re: Quick Question from a New Hero

I agree with the Contact/DNPC or Follower/DNPC usages. But the Rivalry/Contact makes little sense to me.

Batman has Alfred as a Follower. But Alfred virtually never gets in trouble, even when aiding directly in cases. He walked into a firefight between Penguin & the GCPD and Killer Croc & his gang to untie Robin - and was totally unmolested the entire time. (This was during No Man's Land).

Booster Gold has Skeets as a Follower. Skeets clearly acts to aid Booster in many ways. Booster has to search for or save Skeets fairly often.

Clearly, Skeets is a DNPC and Alfred is not.

Re: Need some help with an article I'm writing on Disads in HERO

White Wolf's World of Darkness has a system. They called them Merits and Flaws. Merits were essentially Perks and Talents. Flaws were Disadvantages. If you want to send me a private message i'll answer more questions on this.

Re: Anyone done Ghost Rider in HERO?

In the comics, no one suffers damage from fighting Ghost Rider in HTH. Plenty of enemies have punched him with no ill effects. A few of his main foes were bricks such as Blackout II or Mister Hyde.

The Penance Stare never caused physical damage nor do I recall anyone ever passing out from its effects. It is a psychological weapon. In that case, what about using extra PRE only for PRE Attack.

He would need Damage Reduction and probably 25/25 Def. And a Multi-Power for his chain (which is not flaming in the comics).

Re: Legends Universe

The list is meant to become a listing of active heroes, and important reserves/inactives. For example, Hank Pym will be inactive but he is active in the background.

It is also to help clairify the list of who exists and who doesn't. Some characters, such as many newer Marvel/DC characters, won't exist at all and some characters will be dead or retired. Jean Grey is dead in this universe. She died returning for Stephen Lang's satellite base. Rachel Summers is the Phoenix.

I do have a rough time sketched out. But those other timelines may have good ideas. Thanks.

My main goal right now is to generate a list of heroes and villains that are active or important right now.

I'm between games right now, so i'm working on a combined Marvel/DC universe. The general idea i've settled on is the legends theme. In other words, since including every character ever to headline a title is impossible, using only the best and the most iconic (two separate criteria). I'd even include characters from other universes if they warrented it.

Note: I haven't followed Civil War, so most of this is pre-Civil War versions

Converting characters is going fairly well right now, but I thought i'd post my basic ideas and see if there is anyone I should have included but passed over. So...open for feedback.

First up...Marvel Characters in the Legends Universe.

The Avengers

Black Knight V (Whitman), Black Panther, Black Widow, Captain America, Falcon, Giant-Man (Pym), Hawkeye, Hercules, Iron Man, Moondragon, Ms. Marvel (Danvers), Captain Marvel II/Pulsar (Rambeau), Quasar, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, She-Hulk, Starfox, Sub-Mariner, Thor, Tigra, USAgent, Vision, Wasp, Wonder Man

The Fantastic Four

Human Torch II, Invisible Woman, Mr. Fantastic, Thing

Thunderbolts

Atlas, Blizzard II, Charcoal, Jolt, Mach-IV, Moonstone, Songbird

(note: zemo and fixer are going to be villains)

The Warriors

Firestar, Justice, Namorita, Night Thrasher, Nova, Powerhouse (alex powers), Rage, Speedball, Turbo

The X-Men Family

Angel, Banshee, Beast, Bishop, Colossus, Cyclops, Daytripper (sefton), Dazzler II, Gambit, Havok, Iceman, Nightcrawler, Phoenix III (rachel), Psylocke, Rogue, Sage, Shadowcat, Storm, Sunfire, Wolverine

Blink, Cable, Cannonball, Jubilee, Karma, M, Magik (rasputin), Magma, Mirage II, Siryn, Sunspot, Warpath, Wolfsbane

Marvel Heroes (including the Marvel Knights, Defenders, and Young Avengers)

Ant-Man (lang), Aurora, Black Cat, Captain Britain, Cloak, Dagger, Daredevil, Deathlok III (collins), Dr. Strange, Gargoyle II, Captain Marvel III (genis), Ghost Rider IV (ketch), Kate Bishop/Hawkeye II, Hellcat, Hulk, Iron Fist, Lionheart, Nighthawk, Patriot II (bradley), Power-Man II (cage), Punisher, Silver Surfer, Spider-Man, Spider-Woman (drew), Spider-Woman II (carpenter), Stature (lang), Valkyrie, Yankee Clipper, Yellowjacket II

Note: villains will reflect the heroes on the final list. DC heroes to come later.

Your thoughts? Anyone to add? Anyone to delete?

Re: Batman's Utility Belt

The real Batman?

I realize that with some fictional characters, establishing "canon" is difficult. But in this case, we can conclude that the DC series staring Batman are canon.

And many items used by Batman in the comics exceed 30 or even 50 Active Points.

Re: Batman's Utility Belt

The real Batman has some equipment that is simply higher Active Points than 50 or 30 points.

Re: How Many US Heros ?

It's not exactly my favorite city either. But it is one of the fastest-growing cities in the US; doesn't seem too unlikely they could find one super who likes glitz and gaudy.

Good point. But not too many heroes, I think.

I think the money is kinda the point. And if the FBI (and/or PRIMUS) can protect Vegas, why not New York or LA? Why do we need superheroes at all?

 

But I do like the idea of a superhero who works for the mob to protect the casinos from "other" criminals. Talk about a conflicted character set-up!

From what I understand of PRIMUS, they think they can. And if you consider the "bank robbery" level villains. Guys like Blowtorch, Power Crusher, Green Dragon, and so forth....PRIMUS may be right.

As for the superhero for the mob. I was think more of something like Team Hammer from Marvel Comics. Second-string villains who are happy to take retainer with a strong organization that can provide them with legal and tech services.

Re: Champions on OpenRpg

This should be on the Player Finder

Re: Batman's Utility Belt

Batman was also shown to use Scarecrow's toxins in the Tower of Babel storyline.

He had some in the Batcave to be used against Aquaman (should he ever turn evil).

Re: How Many U S Heros ?

Pre-1999, I saw a version of the one in a million with modifiers. The guy who wrote it up started each country with 1 super (hero or villain) per million.

He then had modifiers based on various factors including:

mystical tradition (places like Britain or China)

mythological tradition (such as Greece, Egypt, or Norway)

tech level (USA or Israel scores high here)

religious tradition (such as Israel or Italy)

government (bonus for republics and negative for tyranny)

martial arts tradition (such as Japan or China)

and possibly other factors. these things than provide a +/- of up to 25% each. this gave a more "realistic" figure. China might start out with a 1000 supers but it has a government that represses rights and is a second world nation technologically (they can manufacture but have little innovation); this is balanced by a strong martial arts and mystic tradition.

Re: How Many U S Heros ?

That would make the assumption that some super is willing to live in Vegas just to keep it safe. It also assumes the mob or FBI doesn't perform that role. Aside from money, Vegas has little attraction and the casinos are sure to take steps to secure their money whether that involves special technology, hiring their own supers, etc. They couldn't afford to operate if they depended on the kindness of a vigilante or local do-gooder for security.

Re: Stupid Animal Questions

This whole thread is based on the value of goats and the Money Perk. But remember, that $100,000 represents todays economy. A FH campaign would not necessarily be the same because of inflation. The Value of Money has increased easily 40 times just since World War II.

Why not solve the problem by altering the annual incomes granted by the money perk?