L. Marcus Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 Re: The Last Word Employer goes Umpire: "Yerrout!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 Re: The Last Word Basically, yeah. Which sucks if you're the employee the boss decides he doesn't like, or wants to blame for his screwup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 Re: The Last Word Boy Howdy, how that would suck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zornwil Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 Re: The Last Word Union's are downright evil in most of the US. Teamsters the worst of the lot. Unless of course you're a teamster or in the teamster family. But, yeah (since I'm not). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 Re: The Last Word It all boils down to on wich side of the fence you stand. Or, as in some cases, if you straddle said fence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zornwil Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 Re: The Last Word Why do you hate Hermit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 Re: The Last Word . . . I just wonder why he never gets down . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Re: The Last Word . . . I just wonder why he never gets down . . . You see, the post was a little tall and he accidently sat on it............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Re: The Last Word Yeah' date=' we have a Right To Hire law in NC, which everyone I've heard mentioning it calls the "Right to fire" law. You don't have to have cause, basically.[/quote'] Put here it's known as At Will Employment. You're employed At The Will of the Company. They can fire you for no reason at all. The sue happy country we are however makes it so employers only fire if they have a solid paper trail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted August 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Re: The Last Word Put here it's known as At Will Employment. You're employed At The Will of the Company. They can fire you for no reason at all. The sue happy country we are however makes it so employers only fire if they have a solid paper trail. Well that least that is a check and balance to the system. Not much, but still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Re: The Last Word Put here it's known as At Will Employment. You're employed At The Will of the Company. They can fire you for no reason at all. The sue happy country we are however makes it so employers only fire if they have a solid paper trail. Ah, but you can't sue in NC if you're fired without cause. That's what the Right to Hire thing is all about. Fun, huh? Your best bet is to just go collect unemployment and hope your former employer doesn't contest your claim to unemployment. Which they can also do. I imagine it must be nice to be an employer in NC. It makes me wonder why so many jobs are leaving the state, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Re: The Last Word Back in the office, with sunburn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Re: The Last Word And without a pile of work waiting for you? I'm jealous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zornwil Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Re: The Last Word Ah, but you can't sue in NC if you're fired without cause. That's what the Right to Hire thing is all about. Fun, huh? Your best bet is to just go collect unemployment and hope your former employer doesn't contest your claim to unemployment. Which they can also do. I imagine it must be nice to be an employer in NC. It makes me wonder why so many jobs are leaving the state, anyway. You can still sue if you believe it violates civil rights or you believe there was a flagrant form of injustice, as in any state. Of course, if the shop is of <50 people, you are likely to lose. If the shop is larger, then you have a stronger likelihood of winning because all the federal regukations on fairness apply (smaller businesses are often exempt from many requirements due to the limitations of their size). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zornwil Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Re: The Last Word Ah, but you can't sue in NC if you're fired without cause. That's what the Right to Hire thing is all about. Fun, huh? Your best bet is to just go collect unemployment and hope your former employer doesn't contest your claim to unemployment. Which they can also do. I imagine it must be nice to be an employer in NC. It makes me wonder why so many jobs are leaving the state, anyway. PS - also, the NC scenario is not uncommon, Oregon and SC where I have lived in the past 20 years work the same. Many if not a majority of states are "right to work" (right to fire) states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Re: The Last Word You can still sue if you believe it violates civil rights or you believe there was a flagrant form of injustice' date=' as in any state. Of course, if the shop is of <50 people, you are likely to lose. If the shop is larger, then you have a stronger likelihood of winning because all the federal regukations on fairness apply (smaller businesses are often exempt from many requirements due to the limitations of their size).[/quote'] That's true, but the burden is on the employee to prove he/she was fired without cause and that it's a violation, rather than being on the employer to prove they had adequate cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Re: The Last Word And without a pile of work waiting for you? I'm jealous. Said pile is implicit. Actually, what I find more disturbing is that two of the three offices nearest mine had turnover while I was away. I don't know yet what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Re: The Last Word . . . It may have been the coffee . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Re: The Last Word Said pile is implicit. Actually' date=' what I find more disturbing is that two of the three offices nearest mine had turnover while I was away. I don't know yet what happened.[/quote'] Hmm. Yeah, that is pretty disturbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Re: The Last Word . . . Maybe a student prank? You know, nail all the furniture to the ceiling, so it looked like the room turned over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Re: The Last Word Not THAT kind of turnover. Though, I hear of one office prank where they replaced everything in this one guy's cubicle with cardboard representations while he was on vacation. EDIT: Here it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Re: The Last Word Reminds me of the time a coworker covered his bosses entire cubicle in tinfoil. EVERYTHING. including the papersclips, pens, chair, walls, everything in there. It was truly awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Re: The Last Word Heehee. Well, here's something closer to what L. Marcus was talking about . . . Apparently it takes screws, not nails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Re: The Last Word What else would you use if you want to screw someone over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Re: The Last Word Turns out several folks moved to new space on a different floor. Nothing to worry about at all. A physical consolidation only. This corridor had several people working on different things, only two of whom (myself and one guy next to me who also did not move) were on the same projects, so a couple of groups moved to a different floor to get everyone closer together. This building has scads of extra space, so if anything it was overdue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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