Move Through

[Old Man]

Using huge weapons and throwing huge objects gives an OCV bonus right? Not sure really but if this is true would you give a huge character a bonus for Move Throughs if they're really big?

[TaxiMan]

I treat huge weapons as area effects - they target a hex, not an opponent. Thus, the DCV is 0 if adjacent, 3 if distant. Really helps to hit those tricksy dodgers!

[Old Man]

So how would you handle an area effect move through, as if I were trying to ram you with a car? Is the DCV of the target hex 0, or 3? And what if the move through attack in question were also a grab, as if by a large shark?

[archermoo]

I've always done it that if you are big enough to fill an entire hex, move-throughs and -bys are considered AoE. So you target a hex with them. No idea what the official ruling is...

[pinecone]

This was off the cuff years ago, but the one time I can remember I took the penaltys for size and inverted them as a bonus to hit...ie: if growth gives -6DCV then take a +6 OCV with a move through..I don't think I'd give a bonus to move by though...?

[TaxiMan]

Specifically, here's what I'd do:

 

To perform a Move-Through with a HUGE object (fills a hex), target the hex you want to hit. If it is not adjacent to you, its DCV is 3. If it is adjacent to you, its DCV is 0. Do the rest of the attack as per Move-Through. If you hit, anything in the hex gets hit.

 

If you miss and you are using some Huge Object Of Opportunity (HOOO ), you might want to know how badly you missed. Let a six-sider tell direction (1=2 o'clock, 2=4o'clock, ... 6=12o'clock). Determine the distance missed by doubling 1" for every point you failed your roll. (miss by 1=2"; miss by 2=4"; miss by 3=8" etc.) If you want, Megascale those inches if it's a Megascale-sized attack! If your object is big enough, you might still hit!

 

Example: OCV is 10, DCV is 3 (hex), speed penalties = 4; you need to roll 14 or less (11+OCV-DCV-4) to hit. You roll a 17! You missed by 3 (17-14), so that's 1" x 2^3 = 8". If your HOOO can miss by 50 yards and STILL hit - CONGRATULATIONS! Your Asteroid Blast just smeared your opponent!

 

Of course, this is for unique, one-time attacks and the environment. If you want to do this regularly, buy an Area of Effect attack. So if you had a really huge PC, he'd need to buy his attacks Area of Effect.

[CrosshairCollie]

Last time something like this came up, I 'pro-rated' the damage for the move-through through the +1/2 advantage for AE Hex. So if the final Move-Through damage was to be 18d6, it would instead be 12d6 AE Hex. A bit clunky, but fair.

[coach]

I would rule that if you were using something very large, larger than a hex, then you would be targeting the hex. I would say that the target hex is DCV 3. I would probably also assess a few OCV minuses to the attack to simulate trying to hit somebody with something as unbalanced as a car. Also, note that a midsize car has 3 DEF and 14 BOD, so you can't do more than 17d6 with it.

[Old Man]

I was actually only wondering about Move Throughs by huge creatures. The car ramming points were good, but how can you penalize somebody for using their own huge body?