Guest taxboy4 Posted May 4, 2003 Report Share Posted May 4, 2003 I've bought electronic copies of all the Fantasy Hero rules - now I find it looks like I need a copy of the Original rules also - which version should i buy - not worried if its version 4 - and can i buy them elctronically - costs a lot to get them to me here downunder. Any replies most welcome. Cheers:cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Squirrel Posted May 4, 2003 Report Share Posted May 4, 2003 Get 5th Edition. Although your Fantasy Hero rules are only 4th edition, you will be able to get tons of help from people here and I suspect tons more with 5th than you would with 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Celt Posted May 4, 2003 Report Share Posted May 4, 2003 Yes, sorry to tell you too late but those are source and genre books. They were written for 4th ed Hero (or BBB as you may hear it called) but you'd be better off going with 5th edition (or Fred). There were important changes but nothing that you can't adapt or post here for clarification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted May 4, 2003 Report Share Posted May 4, 2003 Unfortunately, the core rulebooks have never been in electronic format, so you would have to pay to have the books shipped to you. As far as a choice of which book to get, the 5th Edition is clearer and has more options than 4th, and all future Hero Games books will follow its ruleset, so as a long-term investment it's better value for your money. As Super Squirrel and Celt have indicated, the changes from 4th to 5th are rarely major, and your FH rulebooks would be easy enough to adapt to it, especially with the always-ready help from these boards. If price is a concern, your best bet to find a copy of 5E relatively cheap is on the eBay electronic auction website (we can show you how to find it if it's unfamiliar), but the Hero Games online store also has slightly damaged copies at a reduced price - just follow the link at the top of this page. OTOH, the 4th Edition of the HERO System is perfectly usable, fully compatible with the Fantasy HERO books that you own, and should be available for far less than 5th. It came in various hard or soft-cover volumes packaged with the Champions sourcebook (Stock #'s 400, 450, and 451), as well as a softcover volume with just the system rules (Stock # 500). If you're not interested in super-hero gaming, the HERO System 4th Edition by itself would be the best buy. None of these are currently in print, so again, the best deals would likely be on eBay, although I could direct you to several reputable online used game dealers who often have copies and ship internationally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taxboy4 Posted May 4, 2003 Report Share Posted May 4, 2003 Thanks Thanks I might do that I've emailed several New Zealand bookstores to see if they have a copy of 4 or 5 in stock in meanwhile. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted May 5, 2003 Report Share Posted May 5, 2003 Originally posted by Lord Liaden Unfortunately, the core rulebooks have never been in electronic format, so you would have to pay to have the books shipped to you. Actually, the 4th Edition Hero System Rulesbook was available as an electronic download for a while during the Cybergames era. When DoJ came on board, they wisely discontinued it so as not to detract from their new flagship product. I have the HSR 4th Ed pdf. I also have the full version of Acrobat and cross-indexed the snot out of it with links and bookmarks. I wish I could do that with 5th. I agree with the others, though. Go with Fifth. You'll appreciate it in the long run. Keith "Too little, too late" Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taxboy4 Posted May 5, 2003 Report Share Posted May 5, 2003 4th Edition PDF Hiya Any chance of emailing me the pdf? I still like it. Ta B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Celt Posted May 5, 2003 Report Share Posted May 5, 2003 Re: 4th Edition PDF Originally posted by taxboy4 Any chance of emailing me the pdf? But that would be stealing food from the mouths of the creators of rpgs, of whom Keith Curtis is one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taxboy4 Posted May 5, 2003 Report Share Posted May 5, 2003 Too true - but I'm relaxed about paying them a fee for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Celt Posted May 5, 2003 Report Share Posted May 5, 2003 Commendable of you but don't hold your breath. If they wanted fourth edition to be available they'd still have it available. I bought my own pdf copy as a download here back in the Cybergames days. I'd love to have fifth as pdf as well but that not the way they've chosen to make it available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Goodwin Posted May 5, 2003 Report Share Posted May 5, 2003 Originally posted by taxboy4 Too true - but I'm relaxed about paying them a fee for it Perhaps, then, they should be "relaxed" about allowing you to use their copyrighted information. Really, dude. It takes big hanging brass balls to go on a company's discussion board on that company's web site and ask people to pirate that company's products for you. Go away. Don't play Hero System. I don't want you playing in my favorite system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted May 5, 2003 Report Share Posted May 5, 2003 Thanks for the correction on the Hero 4th rulebook, Keith. Completely slipped my mind. I still tend to associate 4th in my mind with the BBB, which didn't make it to pdf. The rulebook pdf is no longer available from Hero Games, of course, but IIRC they were selling it up to the time that FREd made it to market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted May 5, 2003 Report Share Posted May 5, 2003 Originally posted by archer Perhaps, then, they should be "relaxed" about allowing you to use their copyrighted information. Really, dude. It takes big hanging brass balls to go on a company's discussion board on that company's web site and ask people to pirate that company's products for you. Go away. Don't play Hero System. I don't want you playing in my favorite system. That may be a little hasty, Chris. Not everyone may be aware of the etiquette governing electronic books. Besides, when taxboy4 was referring to "paying them a fee for it," he might have meant that he would pay Hero Games. Maybe not, of course, but it's easy to misinterpret what's written in haste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted May 5, 2003 Report Share Posted May 5, 2003 Originally posted by Lord Liaden That may be a little hasty, Chris. Not everyone may be aware of the etiquette governing electronic books. Besides, when taxboy4 was referring to "paying them a fee for it," he might have meant that he would pay Hero Games. Maybe not, of course, but it's easy to misinterpret what's written in haste. I assumed he meant paying DoJ. If DoJ wanted people to be able to buy the book in pdf, it would still be available in their stores. It's not like they have to warehouse an inventory of it. Since they don't want to sell it, I can't either in good conscience. Keith "Besides, You'll enjoy Fifth much better" Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitz Posted May 5, 2003 Report Share Posted May 5, 2003 Originally posted by taxboy4 Thanks I might do that I've emailed several New Zealand bookstores to see if they have a copy of 4 or 5 in stock in meanwhile. Thanks There's a copy on the shelf at Comics Compulsion in Christchurch. I'd grab it myself if I had the spare cash (I like to have a spare copy around if I can -- one for me, and one for the plebs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taxboy4 Posted May 5, 2003 Report Share Posted May 5, 2003 Wow Some People get real excited. Of course I meant to pay the Developers. "doesn't want me playing his Favorite system"- that comment is a bit sad man, its a RPG not a religion (tho it''s all Fantasy as far as I'm concerned). I can only imagine after a comment like that , that person doesn't go out much..and owns 3 computers... Re Christchurch comments - thanks for that I'll contact them tomorrow - just to make sure I understand, they have a 4th edition rules and its exact name is Champions? Cheers The Anti Christ (Apparently) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted May 5, 2003 Report Share Posted May 5, 2003 Re: Wow Originally posted by taxboy4 Some People get real excited. Of course I meant to pay the Developers. "doesn't want me playing his Favorite system"- that comment is a bit sad man, its a RPG not a religion (tho it''s all Fantasy as far as I'm concerned). I can only imagine after a comment like that , that person doesn't go out much..and owns 3 computers... Re Christchurch comments - thanks for that I'll contact them tomorrow - just to make sure I understand, they have a 4th edition rules and its exact name is Champions? Cheers The Anti Christ (Apparently) Actually, if your going to play Fantasy Hero and don't need all of the Superhero material, you might want to try looking for the HSR or Hero System Rulesbook 4th Edition. The Champions book basically reprints this book in its first half (which has the rules set), while the second half has a lot of superhero material and campaign info you may not need. You can probably save yourself some money, since the HSR is soft bound and probably in less demand. Keith "I never doubted you, but you gotta expect evil thoughts when you put the word 'tax' in your name :)" Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taxboy4 Posted May 5, 2003 Report Share Posted May 5, 2003 Hero Rules Fair point, but i a good guy, a tax accountant...not a taxman...tho we do charge obscence fees...wel my bosses do...I charge out at $175+GST per hour and i get around $40 / hour Good advice re books - ta. xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Goodwin Posted May 5, 2003 Report Share Posted May 5, 2003 Re: Wow Originally posted by taxboy4 Some People get real excited. Of course I meant to pay the Developers. "doesn't want me playing his Favorite system"- that comment is a bit sad man, its a RPG not a religion (tho it''s all Fantasy as far as I'm concerned). Taxboy, I apologize for the jerkitude. It looked to me like you were asking people to e-mail you the PDF. There used to be a lot of that going around on rec.games.frp.super-heroes and even a bit on the previous incarnations of the boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted May 5, 2003 Report Share Posted May 5, 2003 Re: Hero Rules Originally posted by taxboy4 Fair point, but i a good guy, a tax accountant...not a taxman...tho we do charge obscence fees...wel my bosses do...I charge out at $175+GST per hour and i get around $40 / hour Good advice re books - ta. xx One of the (many) perks in marrying my wife is that I gained a Step-father-in-law who is a Tax Accountant. Which is a good thing, indeed. We had to make one alteration once the taxes had been submitted (our fault), and the IRS rep said it was one of the most complicated she had ever seen. In one year we added to our regular forms, the forms for a new dependant, a foreign adopion tax credit, a self-employment home business and all the deductibles thereof. The stack of forms was nearly an inch thick Keith "We paid him with dinner and a play" Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taxboy4 Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 PDF's Thanks guys for input I'll be more careful if how I phrase my requests to purchase material now. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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