steph Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Is it legal to take enchanced senses (Detect) and make (detect invisibility) in that way nobody is invisible for me stef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stmichaeldet Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Re: Invisibility Well, if I was the GM in question, it would depend. If you presented me with a sound character concept that could reasonably detect any invisible object because of how your powers function, I'd work with you to create such a power, but it would probably be expensive if it was intended to negate any and all types of invisibility. On the other hand, if it seemed that you were just trying to preemtively negate a possible inconvenience for your character without thinking it through from the concept, I'd likely disallow it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper-Man Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Re: Invisibility Is it legal to take enchanced senses (Detect) and make (detect invisibility) in that way nobody is invisible for me stef A Detect would just let you know that invisibility is being used in the area assuming you built it with range. You would need to buy targeting to be able to hit an otherwise Invisible opponent. And even if this was legal (which I'm not sure about). Invisible Power Effects on the Invisibility itself would make it immune to such a Detect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheUnknown Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Re: Invisibility Is it legal to take enchanced senses (Detect) and make (detect invisibility) in that way nobody is invisible for me stef If the invisibility is bought to affect (detect) or the sence group that includes detect then it would not be detectable by that sence. If the invisibility is not bought vs that sence then it would detect it any way. the build is legal but it does not bypass the invisibility if it affects that sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Re: Invisibility Detect Invisibility is a bit like Detect Energy Blast. Without special effects, it's just notes on paper. I'd say no, completely on the basis that Invisibility could concievably be used any number of non-standard ways... like all other Powers. Would you be able to Detect a stealth jet, for instance (not that that's all that non-standard ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchman Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Re: Invisibility You'd have to build it like this: Detect Invisibility 13- (Unusual Group), Range, Sense, Targeting Costs 22 points, and it won't work if they have invisibility to this sense. I'd probably only allow it in a fantasy game where the magic system has escalating series of measures and countermeasures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Re: Invisibility Legal? sure. Munchkiny bording on MetaGaming Evil? definitely. I'd never allow such a thing. There are a number of other ways around an invisible opponant that are more creative and simply less meta-game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSgt Baloo Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Re: InvisibilityQ Is it legal to take enchanced senses (Detect) and make (detect invisibility) in that way nobody is invisible for me stef Why not do it the old-fashioned way? Buy the character a sense that belongs to a sense group other than sight. When viewing your surroundings, use both senses. If you can't see anything there but your "sonar sense" is telling you there's somebody right in front of you, I'd say you've just detected the invisible guy. The KISS* principle is your friend! *Keep It Simple, Stupid! The KISS principle is a corrolary of Murphy's Law, and is often used as a mantra by engineers. It was first postulated by the engineers at lockheed who realized that making things complicated only made it more likely to break and harder to troubleshoot when it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Waters Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Re: Invisibility If you were using simulated sense 'sight' then it would only work against (non-sight) invisibility. I'm not sure how I'd define a power that detected invisible to sight enemies, who could not be seen because of a magic spell AND invisible to smell enemies who couldn't be smelled because they just didn't have a scent. I'd imagine that you just want to SEE invisible stuff: buy a fully featured unusual sense and you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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