Nyrath Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Remember the description of the Galactic Habitable Zones from Star Hero? Well, apparently astronomers have actually observed this: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/spitzer/news/spitzer-20080721.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmower Boy Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Re: Galactic Habitable Zones But why is it the rim that is so highly radioactive? Usually it's the core zone that is uninhabitable due to high rents and property crime ...er, I mean, radiation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midas Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Re: Galactic Habitable Zones But why is it the rim that is so highly radioactive? Usually it's the core zone that is uninhabitable due to high rents and property crime ...er, I mean, radiation. That's the Roddenberry Barrier. Organic life forms exposed suffer The Banner Effect and immediately destroy each other. "Aromatic Hydrocarbons"?? How do they know what they smell like? Midas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolgroth Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Re: Galactic Habitable Zones It carries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyrath Posted August 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Re: Galactic Habitable Zones "Aromatic Hydrocarbons"?? How do they know what they smell like? Heh. Well, one of the conditions defining a "physical law" is that such laws appear to apply anywhere you are in the universe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_law#Description They can detect what type of chemical hydrocarbon exists in the galaxy by the spectrum. So the assumption is that if Benzene has aromaticity here on Earth, presumably it will also have aromaticity in Messier 101. More simply: if you are looking through a telescope at your friend who is a couple of city blocks away, and you see them blasted by a skunk, you do not have to smell them in order to know that they now smell pretty bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midas Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Re: Galactic Habitable Zones Heh. Well, one of the conditions defining a "physical law" is that such laws appear to apply anywhere you are in the universe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_law#Description They can detect what type of chemical hydrocarbon exists in the galaxy by the spectrum. So the assumption is that if Benzene has aromaticity here on Earth, presumably it will also have aromaticity in Messier 101. More simply: if you are looking through a telescope at your friend who is a couple of city blocks away, and you see them blasted by a skunk, you do not have to smell them in order to know that they now smell pretty bad. Smart alec question, honest answer. Much grass, much rep: Hey, I can rep you again. I visualized the following scene: "Stenchnine cloud detected dead ahead, Cap'n!" "Yellow alert! All power to life support!" It was the implication of unknown chemicals that got me. "We don't know what they are, but we've labelled them aromatic because of their spectrum." Midas (I know, I know. If the Enterprise isn't airtight, "aromatic hydrocarbons" are the least of their worries). edit: Would explain the "whoosh" effect, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverhawk Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 Re: Galactic Habitable Zones Heh. Well, one of the conditions defining a "physical law" is that such laws appear to apply anywhere you are in the universe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_law#Description They can detect what type of chemical hydrocarbon exists in the galaxy by the spectrum. So the assumption is that if Benzene has aromaticity here on Earth, presumably it will also have aromaticity in Messier 101. More simply: if you are looking through a telescope at your friend who is a couple of city blocks away, and you see them blasted by a skunk, you do not have to smell them in order to know that they now smell pretty bad. Time for Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth's Smelloscope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristopher Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 Re: Galactic Habitable Zones http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aromatic_hydrocarbon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyrath Posted August 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 Re: Galactic Habitable Zones Smart alec question, honest answer. Much grass, much rep: Hey, I can rep you again. Thanks! Sometimes (especially without emoticons) it is difficult to determine whether somebody is being humorous or serious. I tend to err on the safe side, assuming seriousity. Of course, people around me soon learn that if they pull my leg, it tends to come off in their hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comic Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 Re: Galactic Habitable Zones Aromatic hydrocarbons don't always smell so bad. Asphalt's loaded with 'em, and once it's cool it emits their volatilates at such a low rate that they're below the threshold of attention of humans. (You could discern the scent, if you cared, but it's not so noticeable as to force you to care.) Granted, arenes are almost all carcinogens, mutagens and teratagens.. but I try to spend as little of my time breathing while near asphalt as possible. Wonder if the habitable-zone precept were applied to modern civil engineering, we'd be any better off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagus Pantojan Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 Re: Galactic Habitable Zones Hell, some aromatic hydrocarbon compounds actually have sweat odors. Worked doing drug research making new drug compounds for animal testing in college. Some reek, some smell sweet, some are pungent, and some you can't even smell. Most of you sweet charecter aromatics contain nitrogen within the aromatic system(Pyperizine), these are used in the manufacture of may drugs today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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