DusterBoy Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Re: Making up a current Day Germany for Champions..... No actual suggestions as such, but I do note that Bundesgrenzschutz would be BSG. GSG is Grenzschutzgruppe (Border Security Group) as in GSG-9. You could always ask Legatus for suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Ops Posted October 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Re: Making up a current Day Germany for Champions..... No. Bundesgrenzschutz is BGS. GSG is a Unit Designation. Why should I ask Legatus ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Re: Making up a current Day Germany for Champions..... Why should he ask me? What could I tell him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DusterBoy Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Re: Making up a current Day Germany for Champions..... Ah. . . jest fergeddaboudit then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Re: Making up a current Day Germany for Champions..... Actually...no, you obviously thought I could contribute something to this thread and I am not aware of that. So I'd like to know. I wasn't trying to make fun. Was it the mere fact that I am German too? And BTW, Black Ops, I posted some German heroes and a story arc for them in the A DC Animated Style Heromachine thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Ops Posted October 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Re: Making up a current Day Germany for Champions..... I noticed. But I do know not much about "your" Universe. Do you think it is compatible with mine ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Re: Making up a current Day Germany for Champions..... No, but perhaps you'd like to borrow some ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Ops Posted October 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Re: Making up a current Day Germany for Champions..... Legatus I know which story you are remaking. I think I identified most players. But which one is Dietrich v.Bern and who is poor doomed Rüdiger von Blecharn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Re: Making up a current Day Germany for Champions..... Those two are not in it. Not yet at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DusterBoy Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Re: Making up a current Day Germany for Champions..... Actually...no' date=' you obviously thought I could contribute something to this thread and I am not aware of that. So I'd like to know. I wasn't trying to make fun. Was it the mere fact that I am German too?[/quote'] Yes, essentially. Mistakenly or not, I consider you our resident expert on German matters. And Black Ops, I know I got the acronym muddled up. Sorry 'bout that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Ops Posted October 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Re: Making up a current Day Germany for Champions..... Yes, essentially. Mistakenly or not, I consider you our resident expert on German matters. And Black Ops, I know I got the acronym muddled up. Sorry 'bout that. Damm that makes me what ? Bratwurst ? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Re: Making up a current Day Germany for Champions..... Damm that makes me what ? Bratwurst ? Lol Nein, du bist Jaeger Schnitzel! LOL, sorry, it's from a bit of American military humor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Ops Posted October 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Re: Making up a current Day Germany for Champions..... Nein, du bist Jaeger Schnitzel! LOL, sorry, it's from a bit of American military humor. With mushrooms ? How barbaric! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Re: Making up a current Day Germany for Champions..... With mushrooms ? How barbaric! My Sargent spent about a week with the German troops, and decided that he enjoyed the German MRE's (Meals, Ready to Eat) better than the American ones, however they had less variety than we did. So he came back and said the selection was: German MRE #1 Schnitzel German MRE #2 Schnitzel German MRE #3 Schnitzel German MRE #4 Schnitzel German MRE #5 Schnitzel German MRE #6 Schnitzel German MRE #7 Schnitzel German MRE #8 Schnitzel German MRE #9 Schnitzel German MRE #10 Schnitzel German MRE #11....... .....Jaeger Schnitzel! German MRE #12 Schnitzel German MRE #13 Schnitzel German MRE #14 Schnitzel German MRE #15 Schnitzel... and on... sometimes he'd take a while to tell this to people. Current American MRE menu: http://www.mreinfo.com/us/mre/menu-xxix-2009.html 24 "flavors" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Ops Posted October 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Re: Making up a current Day Germany for Champions..... It is always the other guys stuff thats better. We liked to trade our MREs with you americans. I remember that your guys liked our G3 (mine was elder then me), we were envious of your light M-16s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Re: Making up a current Day Germany for Champions..... I like the G3, I really like the red dot, especially that battery-saving window up top (I got to be the "Host Sgt." for the Fallschirmjäger when they came over to the 82nd Abn, as opposed to the 2 years I spent in Germany where I never saw one German soldier ). The only real problem I had with (any H&K product actually) is, I think I have short thumbs, and I can't move the selecter switch without taking my finger off the trigger (I can do this on the M-16 and the M-4 easily). I know it's nit-picky, but I just don't like that. Also, I did get to try a German MRE, and they are fantastic... seriously. My first 113 in Germany (before we switched from the 4.2" morter, to the 120mm) was from before Korea, it still had slots for holding your "7.62 rifle" wasn't even modified to hold the M16 at all, heck, they still hadn't even changed the sticker to say anything different than "7.62 rifle." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Re: Making up a current Day Germany for Champions..... I cannot remember exactly if we ever had Jägerschnitzel on board of our Leopard tank. But we never complained about the food. Oh, and we had Uzis not G3s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Ops Posted October 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Re: Making up a current Day Germany for Champions..... But I bet they were also older then you. (The UZIs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DusterBoy Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Re: Making up a current Day Germany for Champions..... I remember seeing a pic of a German soldier (I think in "Jane's Infantry Weapons") and he was carrying an Uzi - with a solid stock, yet. Isn't everyone using the G36 now? I remember I once sketched a bullpup version of it and called it the G38. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Re: Making up a current Day Germany for Champions..... I remember seeing a pic of a German soldier (I think in "Jane's Infantry Weapons") and he was carrying an Uzi - with a solid stock, yet. Isn't everyone using the G36 now? I remember I once sketched a bullpup version of it and called it the G38. There is also the G36c which is more like the M4 variant of our M16, carbine, and collapseable stock, or folding, as is the case in the G36c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Ops Posted October 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Re: Making up a current Day Germany for Champions..... The G 36 was after my time. The UZIs had solid stocks. (I think they are still around) Yes I am that old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigereye Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Re: Making up a current Day Germany for Champions..... My zwei pfennig's worth: I run a European Champions universe, which is NATO-sanctioned. In my game, Europe has many superheroes, although not as many as the US. (including some American heroes not really wanted in their own country and some who have been assigned by the US Armed Forces). The group has two German superheroes (three, if you include their non-player character chief, who rarely appears except in rescue operations). Everyone seems to enjoy it because it lets me run unknown villains, as well as very well-known ones, and gets them out of their US "comfort zone". An idea I've been knocking around, and offer it to you free of charge: Rather than Hitler in the 1930's, Germany was headed by the most popular man there in 1933: noted businessman Hugo Eckener, the head of the Zeppelin Company. (This was actually proposed, and if he had accepted, he'd been hard to stop, even by Hitler.) With him, Germany gradually rebuilt its armed forces and retook occupied territories but without succumbing to the level of fascist militarism that brought it later to grief. Instead, they had to defend itself against Soviet invasion in the middle 1940's, losing many of its eastern lands but retaining its overall integrity (it also found fast allies in Britain and the United States). This allows the same nasty proto-Nazis to be killed off while allowing for a free and more advanced democracy. WWII was also fought in Asia at that time. Setting your game in this alternate universe could allow for lots of strange developments (Einstein-designed German-American atom bombs, from a "Manhattan Projekt"? Mega-zeppelins hauling UNTIL troopers to hot-spots? Unrepentant Nazi Party Paranormal "Ubermenchen" in the 21st century?) while allowing for a break with the past free of bad conscience. You could also stick in some "Tesla-Tech" items or more advanced super-technology than what we have today. Here are a few suggestions: 1. Use the Champions Universe as a basis, but don't hew too closely to it. If you think each German State would have its own superhero team, go for it! 2. Don't be afraid to crib from others' ideas, either published or unpublished. Theme? Fine. (The Deutche X-Manner? Cool!) Players have an idea? Good too, so long as they don't get carried away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Ops Posted October 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Re: Making up a current Day Germany for Champions..... Oh I have done occasional alternate Time lines, but just not for Supers. As I mentioned somewhere I wanted to stay close to "canon". (It was for Pulp. I might post said Timeline one Day if I am terminally bored.) Thank you anyway for your input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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