MrJake Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Would the ability to Detect Lies be a 5 pt or a 10 pt Detect (table is on p162 for reference)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prestidigitator Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Re: 5e: Detect Lie Question Personally I'd call it a large (possibly limited) bonus to a skill like Conversation or Analyze Sincerity. I have never been a big fan of Enhanced Senses making a wholesale replacement for Social Skills in this kind of application. In a game "without absolutes" I've noticed a lot of Hero fans quickly jumping on the bandwagon of simple detection being able to trump social skills.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Goodwin Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Re: 5e: Detect Lie Question Short answer: probably 5 points. Some GMs might say detecting lies is better handled by Telepathy. Prestidigitator, I don't think there's any intent to have this replace a social skill. But given that the game contains Powers that range from the ability to hold one's breath for minutes to the ability to travel across the universe in the blink of an eye, the ability to detect lies is trivial. Also, the ability to tell 100% for sure whether someone is lying doesn't necessarily tell you what the truth is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshairCollie Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Re: 5e: Detect Lie Question I'd probably go with 10, it's a pretty large group of things. Of course, this doesn't tell you what the truth actually is; Telepathy is for that. This would be something more like Daredevil's ability to sense heartbeat and breathing irregularities in liars, or a magical lie detector perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJake Posted September 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Re: 5e: Detect Lie Question Anyone know if it has ever been "officially" stat-ed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshairCollie Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Re: 5e: Detect Lie Question Anyone know if it has ever been "officially" stat-ed? IIRC, One-Eyed Jack from the 4e Dark Champions supplement had 'Detect Lie' statted as a Detect. It's probably a spell in one of the Fantasy Hero books as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Re: 5e: Detect Lie Question Short answer: probably 5 points. Some GMs might say detecting lies is better handled by Telepathy. Prestidigitator, I don't think there's any intent to have this replace a social skill. But given that the game contains Powers that range from the ability to hold one's breath for minutes to the ability to travel across the universe in the blink of an eye, the ability to detect lies is trivial. Also, the ability to tell 100% for sure whether someone is lying doesn't necessarily tell you what the truth is. Depends on the means of detect lie - it could have more to do with Postcognition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJake Posted September 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Re: 5e: Detect Lie Question IIRC' date=' One-Eyed Jack from the 4e Dark Champions supplement had 'Detect Lie' statted as a Detect. It's probably a spell in one of the Fantasy Hero books as well.[/quote'] Sadly, I have access to neither of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 Re: 5e: Detect Lie Question Would the ability to Detect Lies be a 5 pt or a 10 pt Detect (table is on p162 for reference)? Depends on what you mean by "lies"....a change in heart beat? A cosmic truth detecter? etc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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