shadowcat1313

Re: Battlemech Weapons to Hero

Whoops... I am getting really good at missends

Heres some rough ideas for converting battletech weapons to hero

havent done anything with dealing with heat on these yet

Re: just a note for the arduin fans

its 59.99+ shipping

and I think its weborder/mailorder only

but heres a link to the ordering page for better information

http://empcho.bizhosting.com/worldguide.html

It makes for great reading... and I love the simple cover

almost hearkens back to little black traveller in a way

Re: just a note for the arduin fans

my apologies for not giving a better or clearer message on it

I am now reading my copy of the book though

Re: Starship design - How much space does THAT take up?

From Champions 2

Labs take 5 Hexes

Machine shops or mechanical workshops tkae 10 hexes

and allow a standard skill roll

under the the old system, the labs cost 1 pt each

improving either adds 3 hexes per +1 to the skill roll and +1 cost

although by spending 2 pts to add +1 the size stays the same

These are for a general lab or workshop

a specific Lab is 3 hexes, +1 per +1

a specfic workshop is 6 hexes and +1 per +1

so by this rule, a lab from GT would count as a general lab +1

since its 4 DT/8 Hexes

whoops

Doh... a Deer

2 seat cockpit bridge module, civilian standard, with a couple of options available. 1 DT/2 Hexes in size, does not include a full computer, just some software ideas

if anybody wants to discuss star hero or hero in general on IRC. I am on the undernet most every night from 6-10 or so, normally in #traveller and #callahans

as I am on the channels above for various reasons, I dont use the chat room here on the boards... at least right now

Re: Starship design - How much space does THAT take up?

then what about using a fixed size for such things, or a %

for example GT requires a utility module taking 1DT for every 500 tons of displacement, this covers your environmental requirements.

while not perfect, it might be the easiest way of depicting such things

Labs also take a specific amount of space in GT, and thats 2 DT

what about having a basic lab take 2DT, a enhanced lab take 4 and an advanced lab take 6? or something similar

Re: Starship design - How much space does THAT take up?

works for me, but do we want to do any cross-posting for the folks that dont follow both sites?

with the response Steve gave on the volume question, do we go with the 50% usable after to make things easier, or build from teh ground up?

Re: Starship design - How much space does THAT take up?

I asked for a clarification in the general rules question board

and heres Steves Response

The rules concerning Vehicle volume are all strictly optional guidelines, and they go about as far as I ever intend to officially. If you want to provide more detail regarding the volume of your Vehicles, you can include whatever you think is appropriate.

TUV page 8 gives the volume figure for a given vehicle and then states that

you halve the exterior volume to get the available volume for cargo and passengers etc...

does this internal volume figure already have LS, Power, etc figured in?

or is that 50% before you add in the above and everything else?

Re: Starship design - How much space does THAT take up?

are they saying you have 50% internal volume thats usable after bulkheads etc and vital systems?. or is that 50% before vital systems etc?

if there saying that 50% is before you install vital systems... that just doesnt make a lot of sense... again using traveller for an example, you start with your total hull volume, this assumes standard bulkheads etc... then if you want to add heavier compartmentalization... its 10% for partial and 20% for full compartmentalization. GURPS Traveller also penalizes your usable volume for a streamlined hull, again 10 for partial, 20 for full. so even if you have a fully compartmented streamlined hull, you still have 70% space available.

In traveller a 2 passenger stateroom is 4DT/8 hexes, but half that is actual stateroom space, the rest is subsumed in hallways, storage etc

I would agree with 50% usable space for passengers/cargo etc

Re: Starship design - How much space does THAT take up?

I was thinking of going with 1 hex per 20 active points, maybe its just my traveller upbringing, but otherwise it looks like things get out of hand in a hurrry sizewise.

Heres a couple of examples from TE

Mark 1 Starship Laser

124 active points

standard size at ATRI-9= 12 Hexes

ATRI-10= 8 Hexes

ATRI-11= 6 Hexes

ATRI-12= 4 Hexes

that just looks awfully big for such a low power laser

now lets look at the Mark 20 Laser

412 Active Points

ATRI-11= 37 Hexes

ATRI-12= 25 Hexes

Whereas the standard traveller beam laser that

I worked up is a TL-12 Weapon

270 AP and is 1DT/2 Hexes

a small 1 man grav vehicle used for various tasks around space stations and other orbital installations

unarmed except for a plasma welder/cutter

these are capable of moving around cargo containers and such and can lift move up to 30 tons this way

Re: Starship design - How much space does THAT take up?

thanks for the help folks

if were doing the traveller style jump drive, theres a definite issue

since the jump drive uses fuel equal to 10% of the ships DT per jump #

with a maximum jump of 6

Re: Starship design - How much space does THAT take up?

I reccomend we go with Displacement tons, it has the most commonality with the other systems were looking at borrowing from

and the scale of 1 DT= 2 hexes, its not perfect but it makes conversions easy

and gives us a sense of scale. if we want to play' with mass. we could do that too, but I think overall DT works fine.

as far as scaling, I would think its going to vary on TL

my suggestion is that we use something akin to the way its handled In GURPS

Say a given system is ATRI-9 at introduction and has full volume

at ATRI-10 its going to have half volume

and at ATRI-11 its going to have quarter volume

and at ATRI-12 its going to have eighth volume

with the maximum reduction happening 3 TL after Introduction

you could also reduce the END cost at higher TL's and or increase range etc

Re: Babylon 5 Station... a Very Rough starting draft

yes, I play in other peoples sandboxes, I'm also really bad about running with scissors... lobs a sporkful of peas and mash potatoes

I just picked up the B5 Wars rules compendium and Ships of the fleet for 5.00 each at an auction... so I was tinkering

Re: Starship design - How much space does THAT take up?

now we just have to figure out where to start, since the question has come out on control stations/bridges etc... how about we start there

Re: Starship design - How much space does THAT take up?

count me in on this project, it just might be a week or so before I can devote much time to it, I am working on a project for QLI Interactive dealing with Traveller D20.

ok, I went and did it, heres a rough first draft of the B5 station, it does

not lnclude the starfuries or shuttles... and no characters

and some rough weapon ideas

Re: just a note for the arduin fans

and some of the classes, the Techno, The Saint, the Highwayman, the Slaver

and some of the other monsters

Valpyr, Moondog, Night Demon, Shadow Dragon

Sun Dragon

Star Spider

Re: just a note for the arduin fans

A lot of the world was over the top, I will agree with that, but it was also great for throwing curveballs at munchkins and such who thought they knew all the monsters and such.... and Arduin did have quite a variety of different monsters.

Re: Starship design - How much space does THAT take up?

you can fit 3 single space weapons in a turret, thats an unmanned turret

with a remote gunnery station, and that assumes the entire turret is outside the ship, with an extra ton for the gunnery station inside the ship itself

one gunnery station can technically controll a battery of up to 10 turrets

assuming all of the same type.

mixed turrets are an option on small vessels[under 1,000 DT]

otherwise all 3 weapons in a turret must be of the same type

there are also 1 and 2 space turrets available

all still require the gunnery station per battery

there are 5 space turrets also, but those are only for small particle accelerators

some heavy lasers and early graser weapons are fitted as single mounts in a 3 space turret

also there are some light gatling PD Laser mounts that can fitted 4 to a standard 3 space turret, but those arent traveller canon

Re: Starship design - How much space does THAT take up?

depends on the system your converting from etc...

for instance, a standard traveller beam laser takes up 1 displacement ton of space or 2 SH Hexes, if you do a straight conversion

BUT... the way it comes out in SH, its considerably bigger, I worked it out as 270 Active Points, which is going to be 9 hexes in size if I am reading your post correctly, so to get it back down to the 1 hex size your going to need to buy 4 levels of size reduction... or am I completely out in left field on this one?

to use another example, this one taken from the GURPS Traveller Starships book... which is a great source for ideas etc...

a basic starship bridge which has 5 crewstations and takes 5 DT/10 Hexes

a DT being roughly 13.5 or 14 Cubic Meters depending on which version you use, but I call it 2 just to keep things neat