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Re: Alien Wars spaceship construction Roger Sanger who owned Digest Group has had several offers for the traveller stuff... biggest problem was he wanted too high a price, and or he wanted whoever bought them to also publish his own game, that really was not even remotely worth it, I read a playtest of it

Re: Alien Wars spaceship construction however... the old Digest Group Megatraveller books wont ever come out on CD, long and nasty dispute on that one... which is really too bad.. .the DGP were probably the best books for Megatraveller

Re: Alien Wars spaceship construction I still have all my old little black books, but the CD I keep for cons and stuff, its a lot handier than all the books

Re: Alien Wars spaceship construction It was really hard being a Traveller completiest, then Far Future Enterprises started selling the compilation CDs, those are well worth the price, 30.00 for a complete little black book set, I got mine free, Marc Miller was missing a couple of JTAS issues that I had, so he gave me the CD after I loaned him the 2 JTAS issues

Re: Alien Wars spaceship construction I phrased it badly.. this was a low tech tracked ATV designed for worlds with an atmosphere, I just dont remember which book it was in, might have been one of the T4 books

Re: Alien Wars spaceship construction I have done a displacement crapload of real vehicle conversions, but for most of those I have the dimensions to figure volume with, and go from there, its a lot simpler Trivia Note: the Tracked ATV from classic traveller which is open-topped, is simply a Bren Gun Carrier

Re: Alien Wars spaceship construction ran some numbers crossing from FF&S to Hero Designer, heres what I come up with for Traveller hulls from 1 to 100 tons based on listed unmodified length straight to Hero size rating Traveller Hull Size Conversions Trav Trav Hero Displacement Tonnage Volume Length Size 1 14 3.2 2 2 28 4 3 3 42 4.6 3 4 56 5.2 4 5 70 5.6 4 6 84 5.8 4 7 98 6.2 4 8 112 6.6 5 9 126 6.8 5 10 140 7 5 15 210 7.5 5 20 280 8 6 25 350 8.6 6 30 420 9.2 6 35 490 9.8 6 40 560 10.4 7 45 630 10.8 7 50 700 11.2 7 55 770 11.4 7 60 840 11.6 7 65 910 12.1 7 70 980 12.5 7 75 1050 12.9 8 80 1120 13.2 8 85 1190 13.4 8 90 1260 13.6 8 95 1330 13.8 8 100 1400 14 8 Thoughts?

Re: Alien Wars spaceship construction I am off to work at this point, and working 12 hours, so I wont be on til late tonight, there are some websites out there with FF&S ship designs.. there all traveller designs, but might be good for idea mining etc

Re: Alien Wars spaceship construction check around on the web, there used to be a couple of Excel Spreadsheets to aid with FF&S design in general, if you cant find them, I can go digging in my archives for them, they were unofficial of course

Re: Alien Wars spaceship construction if theres anything else I can help with on this project, let me know, I have a pretty good library of stuff on RPG spacecraft design here. Including a mostly complete set of Traveller and a complete set of Space Opera, and a bunch of GURPS Traveller

Re: Alien Wars spaceship construction 100 ton base hull with a length of 14 meters comes out as a size 9 hull, volume is low at 1,024m3, after you change the length to 42m, it comes out as a size 13 hull, with 16,384m3. this is using rough figures for a Type S Scout Courier

Re: Alien Wars spaceship construction my reasoning behind this was, if you know the Displacement tonnage and hull configuration, you can then extrapolate the length... and then use the size table in Hero based on length as an option DTRPG has it for 10.00 in PDF, good luck finding it in hard copy sadly, and the T4 version of FF&S isnt worth lining a bird cage with. T4 had some decent writing, but no real playtesting and very little proofreading... I helped playtest Imperial Squadrons and Pocket Empires actually, and all our work on playtesting was completely ignored

Re: Alien Wars spaceship construction the first table in Fire, Fusion, and Steel might prove the most useful for this discussion heres an example of it: DT: 100 Volume: 1400 Length: 14 Length is modified by the hull configuration lets call this a streamlined needle hull which using the table following it, gives it a *3 length multiplier

Re: Alien Wars spaceship construction yes, get the TNE edition, DTRPG does have it

Re: Alien Wars spaceship construction one suggestion... see if you can obtain or borrow a copy of Fire, Fusion, And Steel... the first edition for Traveller the New Era. it has a lot of useful stuff in it on vehicle and starship design, and it doesnt just work for traveller, DTRPG has it iirc

Re: Alien Wars spaceship construction lasers and plasma weapons both, and a couple of other weapons... if you want the tech stuff... your going to want Spacers Tool Kit instead or also. I am not a big fan of the ships in Spacers Tool Kit, a lot of useful designs... but not enough detail on the designs themselves, the weapons designs are pretty straightforward.. but no real variety some ships use particle beam weapons instead of lasers, but they are just lasers with a different name.

Re: Alien Wars spaceship construction one set of notes I had on DT/Size conversions Hull Size:[DT] Size: STR: Body: DCV: NOTES: 1 5 35 15 -3 2 7 45 17 -4 3 8 50 18 -5 5 9 55 19 -6 10 10 60 20 -6 15 11 65 21 -7 20 12 70 22 -8 50 14 80 24 -9 100 15 85 25 -10 200 17 95 27 -11 400 18 100 28 -12 600 19 105 29 -12 800 20 110 30 -13 1,200 21 115 31 -14 2,000 22 120 32 -14 3,000 23 125 33 -14 5,000 24 130 34 -16 8,000 25 135 35 -16 10,000 25 135 35 -16 20,000 27 145 37 -18 30,000 28 150 38 -18 50,000 29 155 39 -19 60,000 29 155 39 -19 75,000 30 160 40 -20 100,000 30 160 40 -20 200,000 32 170 42 -20 300,000 33 175 ` 43 -21 500,000 34 180 44 -22 1,000,000 35 185 45 -22

Re: Alien Wars spaceship construction heres what we used for various tonnages in TH: 800 DT= 20 60,000= 29 400= 16 200=15 100=14 600=17 500,000=34 ok, so I was half awake when I made that initial post

Re: Alien Wars spaceship construction for example, a 100 displacement ton hull comes out at size 15

Re: Alien Wars spaceship construction we worked out the size= displacement issue for Traveller Hero, its in the book, if your doing deck plans, 2 hero hexes=1 displacement ton

Re: ghost ship back when I ran a Bureau 13/Hero campaign, they dealt with a ghost ship on the great lakes, it was the Edmund Fitzgerald, theres plenty of information out there on her... and I talked to the reporter who first brought the news of her sinking to the world via e-mail... some pretty hairy tales about the storm that night

Re: How do I get started in making a cruiser sized ship? ok, heres the basic template I use for Hero System Starships... with the following caveats 1. I use a lot of things in my designs that arent standard to the hero system, staterooms, cargo capacity, among other things... do as you will

Re: How do I get started in making a cruiser sized ship? you can also look at some of the stuff I maintain on this site http://fafrhd.pocketempires.com/

Re: How to create alien language? Klingon was based at least partially on Swahili IIRC, some of Tolkiens languages were at least partially based on Finnish

Re: How do I get started in making a cruiser sized ship? for some good examples of Starship Building, you want to look at Spacers Tool Kit, The Ultimate Vehicle, and if you can find a copy of Traveller Hero