lemming

Originally posted by Hermit

It's not?

 

Well, that stinks. I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now!

 

(Someone should make that into a song*S*)

Queen made a song with similar lyrics.

Hmm, my group down in the Bay Area had way leftwing liberals to very conservative political views. We didn't have much of a problem. Of course, we also played characters that didn't nessasarily follow the same political views as our own beliefs either, so maybe that helped.

Don't think I have any really stupid concepts in my game currently. I think the one that was brought up as a crime of mine was the Towel Master with his Terry Cloth agents.

They all had Find Weakness and AP attacks... Nothing worse for a hero than being taken out by agents weilding wet towels.

Originally posted by st barbara

Didn't one of the old Villain cuplements have a character whose sole weapon was a flame thrower? (he may even have been CALLED "Flamethrower") How did they handle it in that, does anyone remember ?

Blowtorch from Classic Enemies had a Multipower

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  9d6 EB Autofire
  10d6 EB Explosion
  2d6+1 RKA Uncontrolled Continious
  

I've never had a big problem with it. I've been in games where I played a speed 12 with other players at 5-10.

I also played a speed 4 with other players at up to speed 15. Though the GM made myself and the other speed 4 buy up to 5 after we went and got pizza between our phases on 9 and 12.

Originally posted by Uncle Shecky

We just ignored END for years, but the game is so much better with it. I'm not sure when they made the change to 1 END/10 active points, but it's the best HERO system change ever.

They changed it for 4th edition. Since almost all characters had 1/2 end cost, they figured that it would be better that way.

Of course back then you bought zero end by buying 1/2 end, 1/4 end, 1/8 end etc...

9 end -> 4 end -> 2 end -> 1 end -> 0 end.

Though I kind of liked it in some ways...

Re: Question about Champions' DNPCs

Originally posted by Whitefury

I realize I could just use the standard 'normal' template for most of them, use a 'cat' template for Sunshine, and a Reporter template for Julie; but was intrested to see if anyone has written up their own versions?

Well, I did do a pict for Sunshine.

http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=23962#post23962

I did throw in a couple skills and disads.

Animal Handler (Humans)

and addicted to Catnip and Tuna...

Way back when (Champs II) I had someone want to put a vehicle in a gadget pool. (Back when gadget pools were real points and not active...) woo!

Originally posted by Uncle Shecky

Actually, in 1st and 2nd edition, Crusader, Starburst, and Ogre were used in a really handy walk-through for character creation (something sadly missing from FREd, but I don't have 5th Champions--maybe it's there?), and they had all of their stats.

The Combat sample is also in 4th (page 210 in the BBB) though it uses 3rd edition rules. (I think they fixed it for the soft covers...)

5th edition doesn't have a full example, but they do have bits. Starburst is used as an example for a few of them.

Originally posted by misterdeath

Do you know what's worse? I OWN it.

 

Mwahahahahahaha.

Yea, I bought the "Ultimate Adventurer's Guide" just because the original book was so bad. I'm still tempted to do a Synnibarr Hero at some point, but I might be brought up on war crimes....

Originally posted by misterdeath

Non Hero semi-supers product: Synnibar. The world of. Yeeks. Overpowered and Underpowered character classes. Confusing rules, strange random elements. Some good ideas, but hard to glean the wheat from the chaff (more apt analogy, finding the needle in the hayloft).

Come on, that Raven guy jumped off diving boards to make sure it was a good system.

Did you know there's a second book? MWA HA HA HA!

Originally posted by Lord Liaden

But I dread the coming of Pulp HERO.

You're probably thinking of Pulped Hero, aka Seeker.

Look at the explanation on Page 137, paragraph two

Hmm, I see nobody has mentioned Enemies III. That was the first Hero book that made me think "Why did I spend money on this?"

Re: Great Googly Mooglies!

Originally posted by Hermit

It's a feline prescence attack!

I forgot to credit the feline who is acting as Sunshine. Played by Little Tyke at House of Dreams.

Here's a quick pict of Witchcraft's familiar, Sunshine.

I played Witchcraft in Steve Long's game at Game Storm and happen to have lots of cat pictures on my laptop...

Hmm, I need to get off my behind and sell the doubles I have a various books. None of the RARE!!! books. Mainly some that would be for the completist amongst people. Champions III, Deathsroke, Day of the Destroyer, etc...

Re: Re: OOPs

Originally posted by Supreme

Looks like a classic team in the making. For an emblem, I'd go with some kind of stylized "A".

I'll go with the Supreme one on this one. Though, I couldn't make out the detail of the A that you had as the emblem. Any chance of just seeing the emblem?

I like the look.

Originally posted by Dust Raven

I agree. Vastly differeing power levels between characters rarely works out. It's like playing D&D or Palladium with one or two 1st or 2nd levels characters in a group full of 6-8 level characters (or vice versa). About the only thing the weaker characters can do is role-play, and occasionally use a spiffy skill or two that only they have. They simply won't be much of any use in combat.

 

Now, if you are running a game that's light on combat and heavy on role-play....this all wouldn't make much difference.

It really depends on the game style. I run and played in games where the point totals varied by plus or minus 600 points. Though to run a game like that where there are several power levels, it helps to have multiple characters.

In one game, we had three different characters. During the roleplaying we would figure out which character went where and sometimes we would have one low powered character along with everyone elses high powered character.

IMO, it captured the feel of the JSA, Avengers, and Legion comics.

For the campaign I'm running, I'm not sure how to put the vibe of the team.

Now for Wilson's game: The vibe is paranioa. Distrust of the goverment and be scared of what some of your teammates are up to in their spare time.

Originally posted by Blue

Man I feel old. I think I'm the only one who remembers Joe Satriani's classic instrumental "Surfing with the Alien", with the equally classic Silver Surfer on the cover.

 

I'm gonna go take my Geritol now.

Old! Yeah right. You're a young punk.

Well, at least you've got the most popular birthday which also seems to belong to the oldest members.

On some of the GURPS supers, Michael Surbrook also has some conversion. (At least I'm pretty sure.)

Originally posted by Crusader108

Radar Love by White Lion

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Quick question: Why the White Lion version (which I've never heard) as opposed to the Golden Earring version. Especially since you mentioned Twilight Zone.

Ok, a partial list trying not to duplicate others:

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  Back In Black by AC/DC
  Hell's Bells by AC/DC
  Highway to Hell by AC/DC
  TNT by AC/DC
  Friend or Foe by Adam Ant
  Goody Two Shoes by Adam Ant
  We've got to get out of this place by The Animals
  Dragnet by Art of Noise
  Peter Gunn Theme by Art of Noise
  Happiness is a Warm Gun by The Beatles
  Helter Skelter by The Beatles (or Siouxsie)
  Only the Good die young by Billy Joel
  Don't Fear the Reaper by BOC
  Flaming Telepaths by BOC
  Godzilla by BOC
  Harvester of Eyes by BOC
  Something's Gone Wrong Again by The Buzzcocks
  Dream Police by Cheap Trick
  One of my Kind by Concrete Blond
  I'm afraid of Americans by David Bowie
  California Uber Alles by Dead Kennedys
  Holiday in Cambodia by Dead Kennedys
  I fought the law by Dead Kennedys
  Viva Las Vegas by Dead Kennedys
  Barrel of a Gun by Depeche Mode
  How much Coffee can one man drink by Dr. Tasty
  Hotel California by Eagles
  Pump it Up by Elvis Costello
  Watching the Detectives by Elvis Costello
  Wild Wild West by Escape Club
  We Have Explosive by FSOL
  Hey Man, nice shot by Filter
  Who do you love by George Thorogood (or Jesus & Mary Chain)
  Welcome to the Jungle by Guns 'N' Roses
  People Who Died by Jim Carrol
  Wicked Gravity by Jim Carrol
  Dead Souls by Joy Division
  Screaming for Vengeance by Judas Priest
  You've got another thing comin by Judas Priest
  Last by Nine Inch Nails (more, but you're eyes are probably starting to glaze over)
  Is She Wierd by the Pixies
  Flash by Queen
  Dragulla by Rob Zombie
  Living Dead Girl by Rob Zombie
  Paint it Black by Rolling Stones
  Sympathy for the Devil by Rolling Stones
  Skin by Siouxsie and the Banshees
  Cities in Dust by Siouxsie and the Banshees
  92 by Siouxsie and the Banshees
  Face to Dace by Siouxsie and the Banshees
  The Happy Worker by Tori Amos
  Everybody wants to rule the world by Tears for Fears
  Istanbul by They Might be Giants
  Minimum Wage by They Might be Giants
  Particle man by They Might be Giants
  Professional Widow by Tori Amos
  Eve of Destruction by Barry McGuire
  I want Candy by Bow wow wow
  Mission Impossible Theme by several
  Irish Folk Song by Dennis Leary
  Sixteen tons by Johnny Cash (well, almost anything by him)
  Knights in White Satin by Moody Blues
  Come out and Play by Offspring
  Creep by Radiohead
  The Seeker by The Who
  Walk this way by Aerosmith
  Genesis by Alan Parsons
  Games People Play by Alan Parsons
  Snake Eyes by Alan Parsons
  No More Mr. Nice Guy by Alice Cooper
  Channel Z by B-52s
  Private Idaho by B-52s
  Bad Company by Bad Company
  Happy Boy by The Beat Farmers
  Blowin Sky High by Berlin
  Army of Me by Bjork
  Atomic by Blondie
  Rip her to Shreds by Blondie
  Die Young, Stay Pretty by Blondie
  I'm always touched by your Presence Dear by Blondie
  Kung Fu Girls by Blondie
  ETI by BOC
  Black Blade by BOC
  Imaginos by BOC
  Iron Man by The Cardigans (Well, purists will want the Black Sabbath version)
  Erase-Rewind by The Cardigans
  Explode by The Cardigans
  My favorite Game by The Cardigans
  Dangerous Type by the Cars
  Cult of Personality by Living Colour
  Can you Dig it by Pop will eat itself
  Mr & Mrs Smack by Eat
  I like Gumby by Jonathan Richman
  Only a Lad by Oingo Boingo
  I melt with you by English Beat
  Bloodletting by Concrete Blonde
  I hate my generation by Cracker
  Human Fly by The Cramps
  Can't find my Mind by The Cramps
  Zombie Dance by The Cramps
  What's behind the Mask by The Cramps
  Strychnine by The Cramps
  Wish you dead by Curve
  Fait Accompli by Curve
  The whole Album of Tijuana Hit Squad by Dead Bolt
  Through being cool by Devo
  Beautiful World by Devo
  Satisfaction by Devo
  Whip It by Devo
  Mechanical Man by Devo
  Speed Racer by Devo
  Explosions by Devo
  Get Rid of that Girl by The Donnas
  I Wanna Be a Unabomber by The Donnas
  A Mistake by Fiona Apple
  Super-Vixen by Garbage
  Vow by Garbage
  #1 Crush by Garbage
  Birth, School, Work, Death by The Godfathers
  Barracuda by Heart
  If Looks could Kill by Heart
  Caeser by Iggy Pop
  Dog Food by Iggy Pop
  Knocking Em Down in The City by Iggy Pop
  Mr. Dynamite by Iggy Pop
  Can I play with Madness by Iron Maiden
  Run to the Hills by Iron Maiden
  No Anchovies Please by J. Geils
  White Rabbit by Jefferson Airplane
  Blue from a Gun by Jesus and Mary Chain
  Head On by Jesus and Mary Chain
  It's too Late by Jim Carrol
  Look Sharp by Joe Jackson
  Violence is Golden by John Fogerty
  There goes a Tenner by Kate Bush
  Experiment IV by Kate Bush
  Coffee Homeground by Kate Bush
  Rubberband Girl by Kate Bush
  Eat the Rich by Krokus
  Telepathy by Lene Lovich
  Help Me Mary by Liz Phair
  Supernova by Liz Phair
  Headache by Liz Phair
  Mummers Dance by Loreena McKennitt
  Jungle Law by Love and Rockets
  Jesus built my Hotrod by Ministry
  Stigmata by Ministry
  NWO by Ministry
  Bill Gates must Die by John Vanderslice
  Elvis is Everywhere by Mojo Nixon
  Get out of my Way by Mojo Nixon
  Big Mistake by Natalie Imbruglia
  Impressed by Natalie Imbruglia
  Heresy by Nine Inch Nails
  Closer by Nine Inche Nails
  Last by Nine Inch Nails
  Dead Mans Party by Oingo Boingo
  Nasty Habits by Oingo Boingo
  Scum by Penelope Houston
  Shock the Monkey by Peter Gabriel
  Empty Spaces by Pink Floyd
  Run Like Hell by Pink Floyd
  Waiting for the Worms by Pink Floyd
  Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun by Pink Floyd
  Static by Planet P Project
  King for A day by Planet P Project
  Power by Planet P Project
  Can't get there from here by REM
  I Wanna be Sedated by The Ramones
  Somebody put something in my Drink by The Ramones
  Lunatic Fringe by Red Rider
  Two Headed Dog by Roky Erickson
  Creature with the Atom Brain by Roky Erickson
  The Zoo by Scorpions
  Catwoman by Shakespear's Sister
  Tomorrow never Dies by Sheryl Crow
  Placebo Effect by Siouxsie and the banshees
  Sin In my heart by Siouxsie and the Banshees
  Metal Postcard by Siouxsie and the Banshees
  Nicotine Stain by Siouxsie and the Banshees
  Suburban Relapse by Siouxsie and the Banshees
  Switch by Siouxsie and the Banshees
  This Town Ain't Big enough for both of us by Siouxsie and the Banshees
  Hall of Mirrors by Siouxsie and the Banshees
  Gun by Siouxsie and the Banshees
  Detonation Boulevard by Sisters of Mercy
  Lucretia by Sisters of Mercy
  Ribbons by Sisters of Mercy
  More by Sisters of Mercy
  Kung Fu by Ash
  Route 66 by Depeche Mode
  Veteran of the Psychic Wars by BOC
  Reach Out by Cheap Trick
  Surfin Dead by The Cramps
  Burn the Flames by Roky Erickson
  Earthquake Song by The Little Girls
  Jimmy Olson Blues by Spin Doctors
  Psycho Killer by Talking Heads
  Werewolves of London by Warren Zevon
  Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner by Warren Zevon
  Excitable Boy by Warren Zevon
  I'll Sleep when I'm dead by Warren Zevon
  Lawyers, Guns, and Money by Warren Zevon
  Mr. Bad Example by Warren Zevon
  Poisonous Lookalike by Warren Zevon
  George of the Jungle by Weird Al
  Sharp Dressed Man by ZZ Top
  

Hmm, I said partial didn't I. yeep.

I once wrote up a god character for a game.

He was an obscure god from a pantheon that lost a war with another pantheon ages ago and he was in hiding for many, many years.

He finally came out of hiding when all these supers were around figuring he could blend in.

As a gag, I kept having him change his orgin, but using classic bits.

"I was found an alien spaceship and the dying pilot gave me this ring"

"I was bit by a radioactive beetle"

etc...

He also had a minor transform that was always on, area effect that would get people to "worship" him. (A god aura as it was). It worked fine on normals, but naturally my teammates were always annoyed that even though he wasn't the team leader, everyone treated him like he was...

Originally posted by Crimson-Hawk

Keith, that scares me. It scares me that they could have made oblique references like that fully knowing that only a true scholar like yourself would catch it.

Willy Wonka Facts

Roald Dahl was a strange guy.