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Originally posted by Klytus

Q: What idiot bought this dumb ol' box of Corn Flakes?

 

A: A white ninja with a nailgun

Q: What will Tim Allen be playing in the next Ang Lee movie?

A: Like Streisand with a breathright strip

I now have a mental image of Radar from M*A*S*H* Working for Viper....

"Hey Sparky? Yeah, this is Radar at the Otomwa Nest. Look, we're running low on battle armor, and we recently got a super team in the state, can you believe it? Guess you can't stop progress. Anyways, got any spare suits you can loan us? HQ is being awfully stingy ... uh huh... no, we don't have Ripper any time soon, and boy could we use him. How about we give you 10 flash grenades, 6 old blasters for back up... oh, and I got a copy of Scum Magazine that's only two months out of date."

Originally posted by loraxxx

it's one thing if you're in a game where your characters are the first "supers," either to exist or of a new generation, but in games using the CU or the like, it just SILLY!!!--people have been doing it for years! capes and tights are THE NORM for super powered vigilantes, so much so that people are more likely to be upset about you NOT going out in colors...

 

....it's like deciding to be a street cop, but refusing to wear the uniform, or ride around in cool car with the flashing lights, but still running around shooting people....

That's an interesting point. If I were average joe citizen in a world that had a registration act like the CU has, I'd probably be slightly concerned at someone doing super heroic stuff out of costume. It would be like breaking an unofficial rule, and make me more likely to complain about them breaking the official one.

I can see costumes becoming a sort of 'nod of respect' to the law. Some heroes might see it as a modern day compromise "I won't sign up on that silly registration act, but I WILL make it obvious I'm a super so folks are forewarned by wearing a costume."

Real villain I've used, Thug who often fights chanting self help mantras.

"I am a whole person, I am one with myself. I can and will succeed."

This is especially fun if you decide to give the guy powers like KB resistance, or mental defense with an Incantations throughout limitation

Perhaps they need a Viper variation of Paypal for starts

Perhaps the cornerstone/base is in some ways, aware. When endangered, it 'calls' to the four of them, but it can not truly direct or order them. It has no higher agenda (at least none that we mere mortals could understand) than preventing itself from being abused.

That way, the PCs could feel safe leaving it from time to time since it can always give them a call?

Argh. Darn attachment wouldn't take, then I deleted the post... but clearly not in time.

one idea

Give them a base that is a 'cornerstone' or 'keystone' to our dimension. Protecting it can be among their many duties, and will give them a reason to stay together.

Originally posted by Wormhole

I was thinking about doing something similar in my next game, only I was going to have Teleios steal a sample of her DNA and create an evil clone named "Rubia". Great minds think alike.

Actually, given Cory's public ID and relative fame, a physical clone like the one you suggest might be the better idea. More plot hooks as Sapphire must struggle to bring the 'fake' to justice AND save her own rep from her.

Originally posted by death tribble

Some of the costumes of the characters were put in the Superhero Image thread.

Yeah, wish I could draw, but even those of us who can't can at least visualize in our heads

Costumes, naturally... (at least I hope so) but what sort of costumes? What colors do you find yourself favoring? Do you like the old stand bys like letters or symbols on the chest?

Are your character's costumes 'risque'? If so, how much? Just tight, or do they make Halle Berry's new Catwoman costume look classy by comparison?

What is your character hoping to achieve with his costume?

Protecting Secret ID.

Drawing attention to him/herself?

For stealth? (Hello dark colors)

Protection?

I get the feeling the answer will be that people vary costumes depending on who the character is; which is fair. Still, I have seen on these boards comments and dicussions about Primary colors being traditionally super heroic, and so on.

I like the "Coral Crown" mentioned as a plot seed in the books (Stingray I believe)

Originally posted by OddHat

Maybe so. It's the lines about how "kind-hearted and gentle" the character is, as well as the "rebelling by becoming a nice person" thing that puts me off. You don't grow up watching you parents engaging in ritual torture and murder and emerge as a kind-hearted, gentle, "nice" person. Parents who engage in those practices, assuming that they're somehow sane enough to stay together and raise children at all, are going to have parenting skills that leave their children as complete wrecks at best. Even if she tries to be "nice," she should have only the most superficial understanding of what "nice" is.

Thinking about it, her relationship with her family could explain her atraction to Black Paladin; from her point of view, that's just how men act...

Interesting points. Fortunately, she also ran into the Trigimeritus (sp) Council, and we don't know what magical or non magical counseling she got, but we know she stayed with them for "several years". I think they might have helped her deal with the worst of it. The Champions version we see isn't Witchcraft: Year One so I can see her having dealt with some of her issues; though not all.

Your explaination for the comment on Black Paladin could definitely work. It could also explain her attraction for James Harmon. Defender is NOTHING like she's expected from most wealthy and powerful men.

Originally posted by Chuckg

Naive about the *rest* of the world? Quite possible.

 

She could, for example, believe that nothing in the 'mundane' world could possibly be as evil and bad and nasty and selfish and rotten as the horrible things she's seen in the Mystic World... which is, of course, a completely mistaken belief.

That I could buy and good point. It still seems to indicate that there's no real clash with her personality and background, to me anyways

Originally posted by Chuckg

> I think she's killed in the past, and her code against killing is

> basically a "Never Again". The woman has KS: Demonology

> for crying outloud. Why are we assuming she's a pollyanna?

 

If I remember correctly, The Revered Elder had KS: Demonology as well. It's not necessarily an "evil" skill.

 

Your theory *is* plausible, it's just this particular leap of assumption I question.

Not saying KS: Demonology = Evil or even formerly Evil.

Just saying KS: Demonology means that her being 'naive' is very UNlikely.

I didn't find the Revered Elder exactly naive either

Dr. Denter- He never could afford to make a whole set of powered armor, so instead settled for a helmet. It has a blast that works okay, but VERY Well against metals. He doesn't want to conquer the world, he just wants "A little freakin' respect!"

Phus, Steward of Anxiety- When his master, Phobos (lord of Fear) fell, it was up to his brave valet to carry on. Sadly, Phus' own abilities are new to him, and his magics only make people nervous rather than truly terrorfied.

"Do you feel that cold shiver up your spine heroes? No? Hmm, how about the jangling of your nerves? A HA! I see an eye twitch!"

Arub Thone- From Malva hails Firewing's brother is a slacker and nay o tay too bright, but he does love spectating. Arub came here hoping to see some of the "Kik azz fites" his brother told him about. Much to his annoyance, too often the games are 'blow outs' or no fun to watch. The soap operic social interactions supers often get into ticks him off as boring. Arub doesn't have powers, but isn't above using some of his Malvan tech to intrude on fights and make them more interesting.

"Dood! Kik his azz already! What's with the frickin speach?? Ah, hell wit it. Let's see wot a shot of my enrager ray can do 2 liven tings up!"

Just my opinion but...

I'm not so sure that Witchcraft's personality as written in the books ISN'T appropriate for her. While Nighthawk sees her as naive, there's nothing saying that she actually is. She's underconfident, yes, but that's in part because she's unsure of her power... not just her competence in it, but the purity of that power.

She must have done some truly horrible things for her parents. Twisted sick and maybe brutal rituals, ones that she simply couldn't stomach anymore. Yes, she lacks social skills, but really, things in the vien of sacrificial victims hardly teachs you dating habits.

I think she's killed in the past, and her code against killing is basically a "Never Again". The woman has KS: Demonology for crying outloud. Why are we assuming she's a pollyanna?

She's turned her back on her old life so much, she's letting her fear of falling back keep her from sharing the joys of the new one.

Don't mind me, basking in the after glow

The MC-8 are there, yay!

Originally posted by Klytus

(For the record, that line about the ogres comes from the main HoL Rulebook)

 

Q: What does it take to polish your average Star Destroyer?

 

A: We're gonna need a bigger plasma generator.

Q: The Enterprise stalled on us, I have cables, can you give it a jump?

A: Room Spinning, World fading, blacking out....

Perhaps an evil organization with hornet Motiffs...

The agents carry 'stinger blasters', and dress in insectile looking uniforms. Each major city has a "Hive" with a "Hive Leader". They report ultimately to the mysterious "High Hornet".

Mmm, wait... this is sounding familiar

That's pretty cool, Mark. Nice one.

Stuffing envelopes.

Telemarketing? (If you don't mind her working for evil that is )

Well, as I actually use the Champions in my setting... first thing I do is change the names and costumes making these folks new characters.

Defender is replaced by Onslaught ... secret Identity, Arnold Harmon... cousin or brother to James. Arnold was hoping to use his computer skills to embezzle a few funds from his playboy relative, only to stumble on to the notes on the armor. He now believes James is finacing the Champions and that the Defender Armor was a prototype. He broke into a Harmon factory, reprogrammed a few machines, and managed to make his own version of the armor... and he intends to put it to good use. Onslaught would be motivated by mayhem, rebelling against his expected 'family legacy', and stomping Defender just for the hell of it.

Ditch Ironclad the Alien, and enter Steelskin, rough and tumble brick and legbreaker. He's in it for the cash he thinks this team can provide and the chance to be a bully. Straightforward kind of guy.

Nighthawk needs a new name (I'm thinking Shadow Wolf don't know why), but much could be the same. Why not have him be a guy who ended up in the middle of crime...then super heroes came to the 'rescue'. Their incompetence resulted in his face being burnt badly. Where as Nighthawk is obssessed with Justice, Shadow Wolf is obsessed with revenge on meddlers and heroes... any hero will do. He's become a master of transferance.

Ruby is our Sapphire twist. Once a rival for Cory, she faked a career for longer than Milli Vanilla. Then news of her lip synching and digital alteration to her music went public... and her career went down the tubes. Desperate for attention and limelight, she enviously noted that Sapphire was loved as both a hero AND a singer. She decided to get powers of her own, and struck a deal with ARGENT. ARGENT attempted to overlay Cory's mutant DNA strand on Ruby's... Ruby got very sick, but recovered-physically. Hey, she even has similar powers (only of a red hue). Her mind however, is gone. She's quite insane, violently so. Her narcisism borders on obsessive and anyone who does not 'love her' is seen as a threat to her.

Witchcraft is.. hmm could just use Talisman But if you want to keep to the sheet... call her Witchfire, and make her the daughter of another member of the Scarlet Moon, this experiment worked.. sort of. Have Witchfire be daddy's doting diabolical daughter. Think Ming's not so little girl in "Flash Gordon" only with none of that annoying potential for redemption and lots more loyality. Change the transformation into a frog into something else. Maybe she turns her victims into Worms to cut up. Or Butterflies to pin and collect.

(Yeah, call her Witchfire, might as well use the name )

Ironclad looks good with a beard. All aliens do, just ask Spock.

Originally posted by Chuckg

You see how dull she is? Even her name doesn't stand out!

 

And I don't hate her so much as I consider her backstory/personality a waste of some really nice design potential.

 

Nighthawk, now *him* I hate.

*L*

And Oddhat is right, in Sapphire's writeup (of all places), there's a sentence where they get Witchcraft's name wrong so it's a common mistake.