Holocaust vs Firewing vs Gravitar

[Metaphysician]

All three are energy controllers in the 900-1000 power bracket. Which one would win in a three-way fight??

[FenrisUlf]

It'd be weeks before anyone learned who won; it's take that long to put that hemisphere back together again...

[lemming]

IIRC, there's enough backstory that probably have Holocaust and Gravitar teamup on Firewing.

[Gary]

Hmm, Firewing would go first. Gravitar is the most dangerous. If Firewing thinks to use his 10d6 NND, he has a decent chance at taking out Gravitar with one shot. If he misses however (Gravitar puts all levels in DCV, having a DCV of 16 vs ranged attacks), Gravitar wins easily. Simply spread her 100 str TK to guarantee a hit and grab Firewing with 80 or so TK Str and render him helpless. Holocaust's 20d6 EB can't possibly do enough damage to Gravitar's 54 defenses before Gravitar finishes him off as well.

 

I'd say either Firewing or Gravitar depending on whether Firewing gets that first 10d6 NND in, and whether he thinks of using that attack first.

[Chuckg]

Eh? Gravitar's DCV is 10. She has base DCV 8 and +2 DCV levels, permanent.

 

The other six levels are 5-point skill levels with her gravitic powers... she can't use those for DCV, can she?

[lemming]

Originally posted by Chuckg

Eh? Gravitar's DCV is 10. She has base DCV 8 and +2 DCV levels, permanent.

 

The other six levels are 5-point skill levels with her gravitic powers... she can't use those for DCV, can she?

I wouldn't think so. Maybe against attacks that would be affected by gravity, which wouldn't be any sort of energy attacks such as Firewing's

[Gary]

Per the FAQ, you can use CSLs defensively vs the same type of attacks (HTH or Ranged) that they apply to (as long as they are at least 3 pt levels). So a CSL with swords for instance, can be used as DCV vs HTH attacks, but not for Ranged attacks. Gravitar's 6 CSL's can be used for DCV vs Ranged attacks. They simply wouldn't apply vs HTH attacks.

[Chuckg]

Originally posted by lemming

I wouldn't think so. Maybe against attacks that would be affected by gravity, which wouldn't be any sort of energy attacks such as Firewing's

 

I wouldn't even allow that much, unless she had a gravitics-based Missile Deflection, at which point I'd let them apply like any other OCV levels.

[misterdeath]

Originally posted by Chuckg

Eh? Gravitar's DCV is 10. She has base DCV 8 and +2 DCV levels, permanent.

 

The other six levels are 5-point skill levels with her gravitic powers... she can't use those for DCV, can she?

 

Are they listed as 5 point levels?

 

From Fred pg 36: "Characters can buy the 5 point CSL (snip), or +1 OCV or DCV with a related group of HTH and Ranged attacks (such as "U.S. Army Infantry Weapons" or "All Martial Arts Weapons")."

 

From the FAQ:

 

"Q: If a character has a 3-point Combat Skill Level with, say, Energy Blast, can he apply that CSL to his DCV on any Phase, or only Phases when he uses his EB?

 

A: A character can only allocate a CSL on a Phase when he uses an attack/power that CSL applies to. So, in the example given above, the CSL can only be assigned to DCV on Phases when the character uses his EB.

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Q: If a character has 3-point Combat Skill Levels with, e.g., Punch, Claw, and Grab, can those Levels only add to DCV against those three specific Maneuvers, or against any HTH Combat attack?

 

A: They can provide DCV against any HTH Combat attack.

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Q: If a character buys a three-point CSL with a single weapon that has both HTH and Ranged uses, can he apply that Level to improve his DCV against any sort of attack?

 

A: If a character has bought a 3-point CSL with a specific type of weapon (e.g., some 3-point Levels for bonuses with Rapiers), then he could apply that Level to improve DCV against the type of attack (HTH or Ranged) for which he uses the Level in a given Phase. If he applies the Level to improve his OCV with throwing the Rapier in one of his Phases, then in that same Phase he could use some of the Levels to improve his DCV versus Ranged attacks, but not his DCV against HTH attacks. It’s up to the GM to decide whether the character should be allowed to Abort to use his 3-point one-weapon CSLs to provide DCV, but generally the GM should not allow this, since it makes the CSLs too much like 5-point Levels."

 

I would assume that since she's got 5 point levels with her Gravitic Powers, when she's using her Gravitic Powers she could assign them to OCV or DCV as she wishes.

 

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[Chuckg]

Wow, that's something i missed.

[Enforcer84]

Doesn't Holocaust absorb Energies? That would help him possibly out last gravitar. Firewing seems to be the most capable warrior, but Gravitar is something else...