Bazza Posted March 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Re: The Last Word Hello old friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted March 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Re: The Last Word 2001. There are some bits of this that are really disturbing ... like what? it was a good film. Oh you might be referring to that it took 4 years to film, and used NASA as a consultant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Re: The Last Word Nope -- mostly I was thinking of the bit where Bowman is shutting down Hal's brain, and Hal is panicking in that calm, reasonable tone of voice ... "Daisy ... Daisy ... Give me your answer, do ..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted March 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Re: The Last Word Hal is the only sane one onboard that ship. well until he gets turned off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Re: The Last Word ... Uh ... Define "sane", please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted March 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Re: The Last Word the only one who was making sense, who understood the situation, HAL was the supporting hero -- the sidekick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Re: The Last Word Who else wasn't making sense, then? And "hero" is not the right word, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted March 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Re: The Last Word Who else wasn't making sense' date=' then? And "hero" is not the right word, I think.[/quote'] Well Bowman wasn't initially making sense, now was he? that changed near the end, naturally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Re: The Last Word How was Bowman not making sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted March 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Re: The Last Word *chuckle* Bowman lost his humanity. (nb: it has been a while since I've seen the film) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Re: The Last Word Bowman and Poole are astronauts -- they're supposed to remain calm and collected under extreme pressure. Is that what you mean by losing humanity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted March 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Re: The Last Word Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Re: The Last Word Then please elaborate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted March 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Re: The Last Word Then please elaborate. will do when i get home. well back home , later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted March 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 Re: The Last Word Then please elaborate. Inexplicably we are on this ship with two live astronauts, and three others, who are in frozen hibernation. The astronauts, Poole and Bowman, are even more lifeless and soulless than the people in the previous scene. Again there is no nature anywhere. No plants, no animals, just two banal astronauts who go about their chores servicing the ship, playing chess and shadow boxing. But there is another one on board the ship. This character actually seems to have a soul, or at least the beginnings of one. He is, of course, the onboard computer that runs the entire ship - HAL. As humanity has acquired more and more technology it has lost more and more of it's soul. Here in this lonely spaceship, at the outer edge of human experience, the occupants appear to have completely lost their souls. Conversely, the machine that they built, and which they allow to run their entire lives, has begun to wake up to consciousness. It is beginning to question the reasons for it's existence and the mission, which is something that neither of the two astronauts ever does. HAL, the computer, is slowly developing a kind of soul. [...] The soul of man, if allowed to continue on its present course will eventually be snuffed out, probably by the machines. Bowman and the other astronaut have lost their souls, hence they lost their humanity. When I say... Well Bowman wasn't initially making sense' date=' now was he? that changed near the end, naturally.[/quote'] ...I mean it literally. Bowman wasn't making sense; that is...Bowman as a human was a human in-name-only, he lost his natural sensibility (sensibility & ability to sense) to humanity. At the end of 2001, Bowman's humanity was restored by perceiving the cosmos as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nothere Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 Re: The Last Word I will get the second to last word. Because 2nd place is 1st loser. And I am number 1 in all I do. Sorry also rans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted March 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 Re: The Last Word whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 Re: The Last Word I don't believe in the concept of soul to begin with, so that analysis does nothing for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted March 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 Re: The Last Word *chuckle* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 Re: The Last Word First day of the spring quarter. Also a Monday. I have not yet had my coffee. Grumble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 Re: The Last Word Go get coffee! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 Re: The Last Word I did. I just waited for the opening rush to disperse. The coffee counter opens at 0730; there are classes that start at 0745. So I waited until 0750 and had no wait in line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 Re: The Last Word But the line is half the fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 Re: The Last Word Depends on how many cute girls are ahead of you in line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 Re: The Last Word This is Sweden, so about 90% of girls. ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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