st barbara Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 Re: Looking for Firearm Resource True a case could certainly be made for the Vilar Perosa but the single barrel version wasn't invented until after World War 1 and the weight of the original two barreled version (about 13 lbs) makes it a very heavy weapon for a SMG. It worked a bit better as an infantry support weapon with a bipod; the version suspended from the neck by straps was clumsy and inefficient. The Browning BAR (Browning Automatic Rifle) was a better SMG; and it too found its niche as a light machine gun ! The BAR weighs about 15 or 16 lbs ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st barbara Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 Re: Looking for Firearm Resource The Thompson Submachine gun was in production during WWI and almost saw combat service. Thousands were in crates on the dock in NYC awaiting shipment on 11/11/1918 the day WWI ended. If the war had continued into 1919 it would have seen service. As would the Pederson Device of which over 20000 were made and ready for shipment. The difference is that the Thompson had much more potential for development (much as I like the Pederson Device !). The U S government would hardly allow someone to market a device that could turn a bolt action rifle into an effective SMG to the general public ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st barbara Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 Re: Looking for Firearm Resource Addendum to self 4kg is more like 9lbs not 5lbs ! Sheesh ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethosos Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 Re: Looking for Firearm Resource Steve might want to check with J on Pulp-era guns; as a Christmas gift sent him a gun guide that should cover 'modern' guns--this would be the 1900s, basically. He's a bit of a gun nut--can't blame him, he's an NRA member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CourtFool Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 Looking for Llama Resource The campaign does not need more guns. It needs more llamas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Confusinator Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 Re: Looking for Firearm Resource Yaks...Llamas...same difference. BUT...to have 73 different versions of guns that all do 1D RKA...ahhhhh heaven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutsleeve Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 Re: Looking for Firearm Resource Why not have that many LLamas that do 1d6 flash of aggrevating spit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st barbara Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 Re: Looking for Firearm Resource What we need are mor llamas with guns ! Springfield rifles fitted with the Pederson Device even ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Confusinator Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 Re: Looking for Firearm Resource We will fight for bovine freedom, and hold our big heads high. We will run free with the buffalo, or dddiiiiieeeeeee Cows with Guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 Re: Looking for Firearm Resource As would the Pederson Device of which over 20000 were made and ready for shipment. The difference is that the Thompson had much more potential for development (much as I like the Pederson Device !). The U S government would hardly allow someone to market a device that could turn a bolt action rifle into an effective SMG to the general public ! Why not NOT? At the time, it wasn't illegal to own full auto weapons. IIRC, the first ban on them came about in 1933. They could still be owned, just had to be licensed. There were a lot of civilian/police BARs out there, maybe trade named "dominator"??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroTina Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 Re: Looking for Firearm Resource Thanks for the link Shadowcat, My husband was able to buy a missing gun part from them. Thanks again.. rep for you. T. heres another one although this is more for parts and stuff http://www.e-gunparts.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Re: Looking for Firearm Resource how's this, hope it helps, I keep it bookmarked, I tried using their search, and came up with only three rifles. Side note, on the comments about using fully auto weapons, it's more of a suppressive measure than a means of producing higher number of casualties.. 9-10 you can hit more people, and take them out more affectively by single shots and muzzle discipline, than just a spray and pray method. (watch seals, and Delta force shoot-house videos (you can find these pretty cheap at some mall movie stores) they mostly just use single shots, and they are considered some of the best assault personnel in the world. -Woof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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