Vondy Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 This was one of my favorite comics. Has anyone done a sable write-up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grymour Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Re: John Sable: Freelance Another one of Mike Grell's wonderful series. I haven't read much of the series but what have read is wonderful. I think that he would make a great character for DC. HMMMm if you could give me some of his background maybe I could give it a go(my own knowledge is way to limited). But if anyone else want's to give it a go I would love to see it. Take care and be well, Grymour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuestionMan Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Re: John Sable: Freelance The Hero Games Mike Grell Fan Club. I liked everything, but the Star Slayer Comic series. I liked the 1st Issue, but it sucked afterwords. The Warlord John Sable: Freelance Maggie the Cat James Bond 007 (mini series) Shaman's Tears Green Arrow There was also a John Sable: Freelance Novel and a Movie that never materialized. Cheers QM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Re: John Sable: Freelance Don't forget the six episode tv show. Maybe they will have it on DVD like all these others they have released. CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Re: John Sable: Freelance Don't forget the six episode tv show. Maybe they will have it on DVD like all these others they have released. Also IDW has released a new version of the comic book. CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Confusinator Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Re: John Sable: Freelance This was the comic that got me into collecting comics. I loved it! I've never written him up though, maybe I'll give it a try this weekend. I did not realize there was a failed TV series based on the comics. The newly released comics, are they done by Grell also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Re: John Sable: Freelance This was the comic that got me into collecting comics. I loved it! I've never written him up though, maybe I'll give it a try this weekend. I did not realize there was a failed TV series based on the comics. The newly released comics, are they done by Grell also? I don't know. His name was on the cover, but I didn't pick it up to look inside. CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allen Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Re: John Sable: Freelance The newly released comics' date=' are they done by Grell also?[/quote'] Yeah -- he's both writing and illustrating it. I was only a casual John Sable fan when it was at First, but after reading issue one of the new series, I didn't think it was as good as the old one. Too many plot points introduced too quickly for me, and I was left pretty confused at the end of the issue. The art, however, is as good as ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grymour Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 Re: John Sable: Freelance The thing is that Grell could and often did put many plot points in his series comics, but if I reall correctly he always tied them up, ususlly when you least expected it. Not like the jerrrrrrrrrrrr...ummmm... guys that took over Warlord when he left. *shudders* does anyone remember the whole Atlantis attacks Skartaris(sp?) thing? Anyway just give Mr. Grell a chance and all will become clear I am certain. Take care and be well, Grymour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuestionMan Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 Re: John Sable: Freelance The thing is that Grell could and often did put many plot points in his series comics, but if I reall correctly he always tied them up, ususlly when you least expected it. Not like the jerrrrrrrrrrrr...ummmm... guys that took over Warlord when he left. *shudders* does anyone remember the whole Atlantis attacks Skartaris(sp?) thing? Anyway just give Mr. Grell a chance and all will become clear I am certain. Take care and be well, Grymour WHAT!!! Atlantis attacked Skartais. Naaahhh! Can't say as I do. Denial preserves the beauty of the past against the revisions of later periods. QM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 Re: John Sable: Freelance Anything by Mike Grell is good DC source, especially Jon Sable. Can we get that in .hdc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 Re: Jon Sable: Freelance My wife had a fit when I bought IDW's hardcover of the original 6 issues. I've already got it in softcover from way back in the day. This one is one of the signed and numbered books. The six episode thing introduced Rene Russo to the world. She played Eden Kendall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDU Neil Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 Re: John Sable: Freelance I've got the complete run and novel. (Though I never bought the second series.) Was there ever a Maggie The Cat #3? I never saw it. Wondered if it ever existed. I was really bummed when Jon showed up in Shaman's Tears. I hated the introduction of all the superpowers stuff to his world. I absolutely loved the "real world" that Grell used. Hated the update of the novel to present time. Setting Sable in the '80s, where he worked for Reagan, was at the '72 Olympics... all that stuff. That is what helped make the comic so strong. What I hate about most comics is that they don't ground the characters in any place and time... thus we lose any deep context for the Story. It is what ruins most series... that they never let the character grow and change and age along with the world... so things become utterly shallow and unengaging. Luckily the original series still holds up. I used to read 'em with my Dad. He loved Sable... as well as the Miller Daredevil's and the Romita Jr./Layton Iron Man of the time. First trip to a comic specialty shop... my dad drove me. I remember picking up the first issue of Jon Sable... along with the Punisher/PCP issue of Daredevil. That place was called Monkey's Retreat... there is still one in Columbus, but at the time it was a head shop, and the guy behind the counter was so drunk he dropped and broke a bear bottle and the shop cat started licking up the spilled beer. Did I notice this? Hell no... I was there for comics, but my dad tells the story about standing there in this utter pit of a store thinking, "Where in the world did I just bring my son?" We laugh about that to this day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDU Neil Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 Re: John Sable: Freelance This does not bode well. http://www.comictreadmill.com/CTMBlogarchives/2005/2005_Individual/2005_05/000773.php I think I will avoid picking this up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuestionMan Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 Re: John Sable: Freelance Jon Sable Created by Mike Grell (art and text) Mike Grell's JON SABLE was a freelance mercenary/gun for hire who lived in New York City. Oh, and writer. He wrote about his time in Vietnam, competing as a pentathlete in the Olympics in 1972, his safari business in east Africa and the subsequent murder of his wife and kids by poachers. After tracking down the killers, and avenging himself, he found himself back in the States, with no money, and no market for his novel. His agent convinced him to try his hand at children's books, and so far, he's had some success at that, under the pen name of B.B. Flemm. And he's even managed to fall in love again. But he still freelances. Like the inside cover blurb goes: "Are you in trouble? Need a security expert? A Bodyguard? Someone smart, tough, and experienced? Call Jon Sable--freelance mercenary and paladin for hire." He also had a very short-lived TV series (6 episodes) in the late 80's. Roving correspondent Janice Long reports: "I'll have to see if I have any tv books around that might describe it accurately. To the best of my recollection, he was indeed involved in some way with children's books, but I don't remember if he wrote them or illustrated them. I'm not sure that I would have considered him a detective, but then my memory is a little hazy on the whole thing. I also have some vague recollection of him painting his face before he went on his nightly forays. For some reason it seems that the face paint was red & black, but I may be confusing this with the cards in "Sword of Justice" or with another show entirely. (I told you I was hazy on this!) I remember some woman being in the show (girlfriend? editor? agent?), and there was also a male supporting role. (I think this was a youngish chubby blind guy named Cheesecake who was a computer expert. However, if this character sounds familiar to you from another show, I'm mixed up again.) Only 6 episodes? Gee, it seemed like it was on longer than that. And I'm mortified to admit that I watched it, although you'd never know it from the above description. For some unexplainable reason, it reminded me of T.H.E. Cat which fascinated me as a child." And, in doing further research, it seems that Rene Russo was in it, as Sable's girlfriend, Eden. That's gotta count for something. I missed this one completely but, in retrospect, everyone else seems to think the comic book, at least, was hot stuff. And it gained enough of a cult following that, in the summer of 2000, Grell wrote published his first Sable novel, the eponymously-titled Sable, that re-tells the story of those first five or six issues, and apparently drew considerable praise from fans and non-fans alike. More are promised. Cheers QM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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