nytflyr Posted January 5, 2006 Report Posted January 5, 2006 U.S.Planned Canada Invasion -- in 1930 WASHINGTON, Dec. 30 (UPI) -- Jokes aside, the United States does indeed have a bold war plan for attacking Canada -- only thing is, it`s almost 76 years old. The Washington Post says the plan is a 94-page document that was approved by the War Department in 1930, a blueprint for battle that includes a step-by-step plan to invade, seize and annex The United States` neighbor to the north. First, according to the plan, the U.S. military sends a joint Army-Navy overseas force to capture Halifax, cutting the Canadians off from their British allies. Then forces would seize Canadian power plants near Niagara Falls, so the Canadians would 'freeze in the dark,' as the Post`s version said. Then the Army invades on three fronts -- from Vermont, North Dakota and the Midwest -- while the Navy seizes the Great Lakes and blockades Canada`s Atlantic and Pacific ports. The invasion plan was declassified in 1974, the word 'SECRET' crossed out with a heavy pencil and now sits in a little gray box in the National Archives the Post said. Quote
Steve Long Posted January 5, 2006 Report Posted January 5, 2006 Re: Raiding the Icebox The parts about shutting down the flannel factories to cripple the Canadian economy remain Top Secret. Quote
Mentor Posted January 5, 2006 Report Posted January 5, 2006 Re: Raiding the Icebox I do believe that the expectation that the bulk of the Canadian defenses would be concentrated around their breweries was quite accurate. Quote
Barton Posted January 5, 2006 Report Posted January 5, 2006 Re: Raiding the Icebox U.S.Planned Canada Invasion -- in 1930 WASHINGTON, Dec. 30 (UPI) -- Jokes aside, the United States does indeed have a bold war plan for attacking Canada -- only thing is, it`s almost 76 years old. The Washington Post says the plan is a 94-page document that was approved by the War Department in 1930, a blueprint for battle that includes a step-by-step plan to invade, seize and annex The United States` neighbor to the north. First, according to the plan, the U.S. military sends a joint Army-Navy overseas force to capture Halifax, cutting the Canadians off from their British allies. Then forces would seize Canadian power plants near Niagara Falls, so the Canadians would 'freeze in the dark,' as the Post`s version said. Then the Army invades on three fronts -- from Vermont, North Dakota and the Midwest -- while the Navy seizes the Great Lakes and blockades Canada`s Atlantic and Pacific ports. The invasion plan was declassified in 1974, the word 'SECRET' crossed out with a heavy pencil and now sits in a little gray box in the National Archives the Post said. The DOD (and before that the War Dept.) makes up plans for attacking almost any nation on the planet. The rationale is that if something changes quckly better to have a plan ready than not to have one ready. A reason for this plan to be used would have been if the UK/Canada had surrendered to the Nazi's in the early part of WWII. Having a hostile neighbor to the north would be very bad. Sounds silly, but war plans like these are just the normal part of military planning. The more interesting war plan was plan orange which was an US attack on German interests in the Carribean (assuming UK/France lost WWI and Germany was competing with us in our own backyard in the early 1920's). A possible alternate pulp world where Germany "won" WWI and now faces down the US. Quote
st barbara Posted January 5, 2006 Report Posted January 5, 2006 Re: Raiding the Icebox I know that for years between the wars the U S navy organised its war games to counter an attack from the Royal Navy. Has anyone read Clive Cussler's novel "Night Probe", which partly revolves around the British selling Canada to the U S A during World War II ? Quote
Steve Long Posted January 5, 2006 Report Posted January 5, 2006 Re: Raiding the Icebox plan orange which was an US attack on German interests in the Carribean Hmmm... wasn't Plan Orange for Japan? See, e.g., http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Color-coded_War_Plans In any event, you're right that there's some fascinating material for alternate history Pulp military campaigns out there! See also Hector Bywater's book The Great Pacific War. Quote
ghost-angel Posted January 6, 2006 Report Posted January 6, 2006 Re: Raiding the Icebox I do believe that the expectation that the bulk of the Canadian defenses would be concentrated around their breweries was quite accurate. All both tanks. Quote
The Mad GM Posted January 8, 2006 Report Posted January 8, 2006 Re: Raiding the Icebox Hmmm... wasn't Plan Orange for Japan? See, e.g., http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Color-coded_War_Plans In any event, you're right that there's some fascinating material for alternate history Pulp military campaigns out there! See also Hector Bywater's book The Great Pacific War. I wonder if that's where Quentin Tarantino got his idea for character names for Reservoir Dogs. "Why do I have to be Mr. Pink?" Quote
Basil Posted January 11, 2006 Report Posted January 11, 2006 Re: Raiding the Icebox I thought this looked familiar. http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37275 Still nothing about Pellucidar. Quote
st barbara Posted January 11, 2006 Report Posted January 11, 2006 Re: Raiding the Icebox Hmmm... wasn't Plan Orange for Japan? See, e.g., http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Color-coded_War_Plans In any event, you're right that there's some fascinating material for alternate history Pulp military campaigns out there! See also Hector Bywater's book The Great Pacific War. Fun book ! Especially as it includes a lot of ships that were planned, but not built because of the Washington Naval Conference ! Note that it begins with the Japanese making a sneak attack on a major U S naval base before declaring war ! Bywater's "Their Secret Purposes" is also worth a read if you can get hold of it. The exploits of the Italian Lieutenant Rizzo(who was personally responsible for the sinking of half the Austro-Hungarian Dreadnought fleet !) are particularly worth reading ! Quote
Rapier Posted January 12, 2006 Report Posted January 12, 2006 Re: Raiding the Icebox The parts about shutting down the flannel factories to cripple the Canadian economy remain Top Secret. Lesbians everywhere just cringed! Quote
nytflyr Posted January 12, 2006 Author Report Posted January 12, 2006 Re: Raiding the Icebox I thought this looked familiar. http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37275 Still nothing about Pellucidar. Quote
Marcus Impudite Posted January 16, 2006 Report Posted January 16, 2006 Re: Raiding the Icebox Any attempt to invade Canada would be perilous for the U.S., especially with that devastating new sonic weapon they developed based on the music of Celine Dion... (runs away persued by the mob of Celine Dion fans armed with pitch forks and torches) Quote
The Monster Posted January 18, 2006 Report Posted January 18, 2006 Re: Raiding the Icebox Makes one wonder what plans are stashed in the Pentagon relating to potential alien invasion... "They have hand-held lasers and their vehicles are not antigrav? Excellent! Then it's Plan Chartreuse. Prepare copies for distribution and immediate execution." Quote
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