Egyptoid Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 If we're going to define all the aspects of Ti Kwan Leap, we're going to have to agree what all these terms mean, and how much they cost to have them on your martial artist's character sheet... Ti Kwan Leap who was/is Ki Lo Ni, The Great Teacher. Boot To The Head! As A Pebble Disturbs The Stillness Of The Pond Be Honored To Learn A Lesson... Close The Circle Anger Is A Weapon Only To One's Opponent. Get In The First Shot. Learn The Ways Of Your Own Soul. Not a Path To A Door, But A Road Leading Forever Towards The Horizon Usage of Ti Kwan Leep Is for Self-Defense. Time Has No Meaning. Vinegar Of Hostility Wine Of Purity, Wrong To Tip The Vessel Of Knowledge Rejoin the Mind to the Body Gaze into the Heart of the Candle in Meditation A Year Is As A Day. Frantic Defense Singing & Chanting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa Nadazdy Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Re: Martial Arts: TI KWAN LEAP Excuse me, EXCUSE ME. Hal Gruberman, here. When do we get to beat people up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edsel Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Re: Martial Arts: TI KWAN LEAP Yeah I got the pajamas, I want to start wiping the floor with some bozos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susano Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Re: Martial Arts: TI KWAN LEAP Gentlemen, gentlemen... don't you know by now? If you're going to build something, check here first: http://surbrook.devermore.net/herosource/martialarts.html Specifically: Ti Kwan Leep MANEUVER Phs Pts OCV DCV EFFECT Boot to the Head 1/2 5 +0* +1 STR +4D6 Strike Disarm 1/2 4 -1 +1 Disarm, +10 STR Peaceful Ki Lo Ni Intervention 1/2 4 +1 +3 Block, Abort Takedown 1/2 3 +1 +1 STR Strike; Target Falls You Missed 1/2 4 +0 +5 Dodge vs All, Abort Skills Combat Skill Levels: +2 w/Boot to the Head* Contortionist KS: Ti Kwan Leep KS: Buddhist Philosophy PS: Singing * Bonuses for the CSL are already factored into the maneuver. Style Disadvantage: -10 The origins of Ti Kwan Leep are obscure. It may have been developed in northern India, Tibet, or the western Han Dynasty. The first master of the art was Ki Lo Ni, himself of indeterminate origin, who intended the art to be a form of peaceful self-defense. Practitioners spend a great deal of time in meditation and reflection on peace and non-violence, but paradoxically, the art is best known for its only truly offensive maneuver, a devastating kick known in English and always announced beforehand as "Boot to the Head". One of the more difficult maneuvers of the art, requiring a great deal of flexibility, Masters of Ti Kwan Leep may throw it effortlessly (GMs may allow Ti Kwan Leep Masters to use the maneuver at 0 END). The art is taught today in North America and other locations by Masters desperately attempting to preserve the non-violent roots of the art, with varying success. Later students have taken to literally singing the praises of the art, especially the Boot to the Head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa Nadazdy Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Re: Martial Arts: TI KWAN LEAP I stand in awe to your superior martial arts skills, Susano; rep++ to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susano Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Re: Martial Arts: TI KWAN LEAP I stand in awe to your superior martial arts skills' date=' Susano; rep++ to you.[/quote'] Thanks. Actually, I didn't create that, a friend did (mostly). Anyway, iif people wanted to add material based on the stuff Egyptoid listed, go right ahead, I just wanted to help with the initial steps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgrandjean Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Re: Martial Arts: TI KWAN LEAP If we're going to define all the aspects of Ti Kwan Leap, we're going to have to agree what all these terms mean, and how much they cost to have them on your martial artist's character sheet... Ti Kwan Leap who was/is Ki Lo Ni, The Great Teacher. Boot To The Head! Offensive Strike: possible extra DC As A Pebble Disturbs The Stillness Of The Pond Danger Sense Be Honored To Learn A Lesson... KS: Tai Kwan Leap Close The Circle Mind Link: Tai Quan Leap stylists Anger Is A Weapon Only To One's Opponent. Block Get In The First Shot. Lightning Reflexes Learn The Ways Of Your Own Soul. KS: Meditation or Aid to Dex, RSR KS: Meditation Not a Path To A Door, But A Road Leading Forever Towards The Horizon KS: Martial World Usage of Ti Kwan Leap Is for Self-Defense. Block, Dodge Manuevers, +DCV ... possibly BTTH as Counter strike Manuever Time Has No Meaning. Lightning Reflexes again... Vinegar Of Hostility + DC Wine Of Purity, +PD or Healing to Stun Wrong To Tip The Vessel Of Knowledge Aid: Dex, UBO Rejoin the Mind to the Body Aid: Ego, UBO Gaze into the Heart of the Candle in Meditation KS: Meditation again... A Year Is As A Day. + SPD, Lightning Reflexes, of Extra Dimensional Travel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egyptoid Posted February 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Re: Martial Arts: TI KWAN LEAP Gentlemen, gentlemen... don't you know by now? If you're going to build something, check here first: http://surbrook.devermore.net/herosource/martialarts.html Specifically: Ti Kwan Leep Well, I did a google check of the hero boards before I posted. no-one had done a Ti Kwan Leap thread before that I could find. I like your interpetation, but I will expand it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egyptoid Posted February 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Re: Martial Arts: TI KWAN LEAP Yeah I got the pajamas' date=' I want to start wiping the floor with some bozos.[/quote'] saying "Boot to the Head" is that a Psych Lim or Style disadvantage: "Must Telegraph Moves when Going on Offense" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susano Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Re: Martial Arts: TI KWAN LEAP Well, I did a google check of the hero boards before I posted. no-one had done a Ti Kwan Leap thread before that I could find. I like your interpetation, but I will expand it.... I was joking there. Or trying to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egyptoid Posted February 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Re: Martial Arts: TI KWAN LEAP Excuse me' date=' When do we get to beat people up?[/quote'] ? Beat People Up ? I think what I'll do is like post a character sheet for Ki Lo Ni, the great teacher. He'll represent the perfection of the art. And then the more like his stats you get yours, the further along the path you are. I like the PS: singing, Susano, I had forgot that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egyptoid Posted February 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Re: Martial Arts: TI KWAN LEAP I was joking there. Or trying to. Oh no offense taken, I've been around the boards and mailing list long enough to know you've got the goods on the asian corner of the hero market. But it is wrong to tip the vessel of knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susano Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Re: Martial Arts: TI KWAN LEAP BTW -- in at least one local gaming group, "Ed Gruberman" refers to any totally inept martial artist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Re: Martial Arts: TI KWAN LEAP not to toot my own horn but... Master: "Approach Students, close the circle at the feet of the master. You have come to me asking that I be your guide along the path of Ti Kwon Leap; but be warned be warned, to learn it's ways you must learn the ways of your own soul. Let us meditate on this wisdom now, so." Class: "ohm" Student:"Uh...Sir *snap, snap* Oh OH! Sir!" Master: "Who disturbs our meditation as a pebble disturbs the stillness of the pond?" Student: "Me...Ed Gruberman." Master: "Ed -Gruberman." Ed Gruberman: "Yeah, ah, no disrespect or nuthin' but how long is this going to take?" Master: "Ti Kwan Leap is not a path to a door, but a road leading forever into the horizon- " Ed Gruberman: "So Like what? An hour or so?" Master: No..no..we have not even begun along the path - Ed Gruberman, you must learn patientce -" Ed Gruberman: "Yeah yeah yeah, patience, how long does that take?" Master: "Time has no meaning, to a true student, a year is as a day-" Ed Gruberman: "A year?!? I wanna beat people up right now! I got the pajamas! Hyah Hoo Ha Woo!" Master: "Beat...people...up." Ed Gruberman: "Yeah, just show me all those nifty moves so I can start thrashing bozos, that's all I came here for! Yo sha sta sha sta! Pretty good huh?" Master: "The only use of Ti Kwan Leap is self defense! Do you know who said that? Ki Lo Knee, the great teacher." Ed Gruberman: "Yeah? Well the best defense is a good offense. You know who said that? Mel, the cook on Alice." Master: "No, um, Ti Kwan Leap is the wine of purity not the vinegar of hostility. Meditate upon this truth with us." Class: "Ohm." Ed Gruberman: " Listen Shrimp! All this fag talk is starting to piss me off, now are you going to show me some fancy moves or am I gonna start wiping the walls with you?" Master: "Ed Gruberman, you fail to grasp Ti Kwon Leap, approach me that you might see." Ed Gruberman: "Alright, finally some action." Master: "Observe Closely Class. Boot to the head!" Ed Gruberman: "OW! You booted me in the head!" Master: "You are lucky Ed Gruberman, few novices experience so much of Ti Kwan Leap so soon." Ed Gruberman: "owww..." Master: "Now we continue." Class: "Ohm." Ed Gruberman: "Hey! Hey I wasn't ready! Come and get me now shorty! Huh? C'mon are you chicken?" Master: "Boot to the head." Ed Gruberman: "OWWW! Okay n-now I am ready, okay now try it now." Master: "Boot to the head." Ed Gruberman: "Mind if I just lie down here for a minute? Master: "Now class, we shall return to our -" Student 2: "Master?" Master: "It is wrong to tip the vessel of knowledge, student." Student 2: "Many Apologies Master, but I feel Ed Gruberman is not wholly wrong." Ed Gruberman: *moan* Master: "What do you mean?" Student:"I want to boot some head too." Master: "Have you learned nothing from the lesson of Ed Gruberman?" Student 2: "Yes Master, I have learned two things. First, that anger is a weapon only to one's opponent." Master: "Very good." Student 2: "And secondly- Get in the first shot. Boot to the head!" Master: "You missed." Student 2: "Uh yeah, well..." Master: "You too shall be honored to learn a lesson about this... Student 2: (Simultaneously) "You know I could l- you don't have to you know, I gotta be go-" Master: "Boot to the head." Student 2: "Heowoowowowo!" Master: "Can anyone tell us what lesson has been learned here?" Student 3: "Ah yes Master, not a single one of us could defeat you." Master: "You gain wisdom child..." Student 3: "So we'll have to gang up on you - GET HIM GUYS!" Master: "Boot to the head. Boot. Heh Heh He.!!!!' Sound of students getting their asses handed to them... Class: *Moans* Master: "And now class, let us rejoin the mind to the body and gaze into the heart of the candle in meditation. Ohm" Class: "Ohm" Master: "Very Good Class" from the Karate Kid v Karate Kid thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjcurrie Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Re: Martial Arts: TI KWAN LEAP In my opinion, any description of Ti Kwan Leap should include the word "frantic" somewhere in it to at least give a little acknowledgement to the Canadian comedy troupe "The Frantics" who created it. I say this not just because they are Canadian, but because they are neat guys. After a friend and I saw them live back in the late 1980s, we got to chat with them a bit on a few subjects, including comic books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Re: Martial Arts: TI KWAN LEAP I love them. I have both the CD's they released in the States, even though one of them is broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egyptoid Posted March 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Re: Martial Arts: TI KWAN LEAP Would Penalty skill levels be appropriate? So you could be making "called" kicks to the head quite often ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Re: Martial Arts: TI KWAN LEAP That might be a little overpowering. You could simply buy the kick as a heavy DC maneuver and classify it as an automatic headshot. Kind of like the Headbutt maneuver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susano Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Re: Martial Arts: TI KWAN LEAP That works for me. We bought it as a normal kick and also gave it +2 OCV (bought as straight CSLs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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