Vestnik Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 Sorry if this is mundane and obvious, but these adding DCs rules are conflunding me. My character has a 30 STR and the the following attack (superheroic game): Claws: 1 1/2d6 HKa, 1/2 END Cost (31 AP), Reduced Penetration Then, I have Martial Arts with a Martial Strike (+2 DCs) and an Offensive Strike (+4 DCs), with WE: Use Martial Arts with Claws. So how much damage do I do here? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gojira Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 Re: How much damage do I do? I think players should be forced to buy Naked Advantages for everything that isn't a plain Energy Blast. For example, buy Naked Advantage: 1/2 END, Reduced Pen on your Strength before you you can use it with your claws. Maybe add Linked if it's reasonable that you sometimes wouldn't have your claws. Then it's easy: 30 STR = 2d6KA, with the advantages already paid for. Ditto with +DC. Buy Naked Advantage on 'em before you can use them with a weapon or other attack that isn't just straight +HtH damage. +2 DC is 10 points of regular damage and 1/2d6KA, just like always. +4 DC is 1d6+1KA just like always. Again add Linked if it's reasonable that sometimes you wouldn't have the linked-to item or power. This would eliminate all "How do I add damage?" questions because now you just add 'em up. Or maybe I'm just being cranky .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireleaper Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 Re: How much damage do I do? Sorry if this is mundane and obvious, but these adding DCs rules are conflunding me. My character has a 30 STR and the the following attack (superheroic game): Claws: 1 1/2d6 HKa, 1/2 END Cost (31 AP), Reduced Penetration Then, I have Martial Arts with a Martial Strike (+2 DCs) and an Offensive Strike (+4 DCs), with WE: Use Martial Arts with Claws. So how much damage do I do here? Thanks! If my math is right approximately 3d6+1, 4 damage classes from STR (since with the advantage you need 6.25 points of STR for each dice), +1 Damage class from martial strike or offensive strike (DC's are halved for a killing attack.) also since you have a 5 Damage class attack you may only ever add 5 damage classes to the attack, this is why even with offensive strike you are only adding 1 damage class. Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshairCollie Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 Re: How much damage do I do? You've got 25 points of HKA, so you can put 25 points of STR behind it, making 3d6+1 ... the martial arts are pretty much just gravy at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestnik Posted December 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 Re: How much damage do I do? If my math is right approximately 3d6+1, 4 damage classes from STR (since with the advantage you need 6.25 points of STR for each dice), +1 Damage class from martial strike or offensive strike (DC's are halved for a killing attack.) also since you have a 5 Damage class attack you may only ever add 5 damage classes to the attack, this is why even with offensive strike you are only adding 1 damage class. Hope this helps So, given that it's Reduced Penetration, that comes to two 1 1/2d6 (or 2d6-1) HKAs, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireleaper Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 Re: How much damage do I do? So, given that it's Reduced Penetration, that comes to two 1 1/2d6 (or 2d6-1) HKAs, right? Yes it does. Although you add them together again to determine STUN damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestnik Posted December 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 Re: How much damage do I do? Sometimes I wonder why anybody bothers with weapon elements for Martial Arts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshairCollie Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 Re: How much damage do I do? Sometimes I wonder why anybody bothers with weapon elements for Martial Arts. They seem to be more for Heroic level games, where you might, say, have a character with a 10 or 15 STR using a katana (2d6 HKA). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 How much damage do I do? Sorry if this is mundane and obvious, Lucius Alexander falls off the palindromedary laughing at the idea that Hero's damage stacking rules might be "obvious" to anyone...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spence Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 Re: How much damage do I do? I think players should be forced to buy Naked Advantages for everything that isn't a plain Energy Blast. For example, buy Naked Advantage: 1/2 END, Reduced Pen on your Strength before you you can use it with your claws. Maybe add Linked if it's reasonable that you sometimes wouldn't have your claws. Then it's easy: 30 STR = 2d6KA, with the advantages already paid for. Ditto with +DC. Buy Naked Advantage on 'em before you can use them with a weapon or other attack that isn't just straight +HtH damage. +2 DC is 10 points of regular damage and 1/2d6KA, just like always. +4 DC is 1d6+1KA just like always. Again add Linked if it's reasonable that sometimes you wouldn't have the linked-to item or power. This would eliminate all "How do I add damage?" questions because now you just add 'em up. Or maybe I'm just being cranky .... Cranky Cranky Cranky Cranky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Waters Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 Re: How much damage do I do? You've got 25 points of HKA' date=' so you can put 25 points of STR behind it, making 3d6+1 ... the martial arts are pretty much just gravy at that point. [/quote'] Not so much gravy as toxic waste: -2 OCV and only +1 DCV to compensate: without the advantage of the substantial damage boost you normally get from OS it simply is not worth it unless you are desperately low on END. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshairCollie Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 Re: How much damage do I do? Not so much gravy as toxic waste: -2 OCV and only +1 DCV to compensate: without the advantage of the substantial damage boost you normally get from OS it simply is not worth it unless you are desperately low on END. Well, the O. Strike might be a waste, but you lose nothing by doing the Martial Strike. Full damage, +2 DCV ... other than losing knockback (which you probably weren't relying on anyways), you come out pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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