Spudboy Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Question- why not offer this like Arc Dream/ Dennis Detweiller does (ie, ransom). We'll print the books, when we have enough money. This could be done for special projects like this, that way all those who want a copy (like me) can get one. OR- go the Lulu route. Offer the book on Lulu ONLY in Hardcover. Either way Hero Games AND the gamers win. BTW- I am hearby offering $75 for a copy of Fantasy Hero Hardcover, if someone will pick it up for me. I cannot make it to GenCon. I am willing to send payment via Paypal when you get the book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Long Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Re: Fantasy Hero Hardcover Well, first of all, that is sort of what we're doing. An opportunity came along and we happened to have the money on hand to take advantage of it, so we are. That's more or less how we did our first hardcover special for Pulp Hero, and it's probably how any future specials will be handled. Second, unless we sell every single copy at GenCon, we'll have some for the Online Store once we get back to the office. (We are printing more than we did of PH, though I don't have specific numbers on hand.) So there's some chance, at least, that you can get one for the standard $50 if you just keep a close eye on the O.S. If that fails you can always try to buy one off a GenCon attendee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudboy Posted August 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Re: Fantasy Hero Hardcover I'd have to disagree. If you were doing what Arc Dream/ Pagan is doing, then those who want a copy would be able to get a copy What Arc Dream does is they say - Ok, we have X-book and we're printing x number of copies. As soon as we get enough pledges to do this, off to the printer it goes (yep, I got my copy of Wild Talents this way). They way you do it is the opposite. Print what you CAN and hope to sell them ('course, what happens is they sell out and not everyone gets a copy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remjin Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Re: Fantasy Hero Hardcover uh... hardcovers? There are hardcovers??? Want it! Want it! Only PH and FH, though? Hmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Re: Fantasy Hero Hardcover uh... hardcovers? There are hardcovers??? Want it! Want it! Only PH and FH' date=' though? Hmm...[/quote'] Unless the FH HC bombs in sales I have a gut feeling we'll see more Genre books done in Hard Cover as they get a chance to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thia Halmades Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Re: Fantasy Hero Hardcover This is my one true dream. I love me some hard cover books. I would also ADORE getting DC & PAH in hard cover as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remjin Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Re: Fantasy Hero Hardcover Yeah, I prefer hardcovers overall, they stand up better in my personal environment. I don't mind shelling out some extra bucks for them. I haven't actually used my Fantasy Hero books yet, I must admit, but still... a hardcover is very tempting. I'd love to see some for the other books, be they main books or otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal_sage Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Fantasy Hero Hardcover my personal opinion is that not having harcovers is the one big downside to HERO products...that and the art. layout is tolerable, as it is at least utilitarian even though its not slick and flashy (and this is my opinion, and obviously i'm in the minority, or it wouldn't be this way anymore, point taken). the softcover books, while extremely nice for softcovers, are still much more flimsy and prone to damage than hardcovers, and i've had problems with pages coming out on several occasions. plus hardcovers just feel more official and professional, imho. conversely, i like that HERO books are probably the cheapest RPG books on the market (that i am interested in, anyway) which is good. altough White Wolf is very close, and much nicer, imho, especially on Amazon, in which case they are cheaper, as i only by HERO books from the online store (as i have no local game store to speak of). at least the content is always good and reliable, and mechanically sound. anyway, i plan on sitting at the store webpage all day waiting on FH hardcover to be put up for sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Mhoram Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Fantasy Hero Hardcover anyway, i plan on sitting at the store webpage all day waiting on FH hardcover to be put up for sell. I work from home at my computer. I plan on having a seperate window open on the FH and online store pages, and obsessively check them myself. I passed on the HC Pulp, because I'm not much of a pulp fan, but FH is the genre I GM all the time, and all of my DH articles are FH stuff. I want the hardcover, just because my softcover is getting beat up a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal_sage Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Re: Fantasy Hero Hardcover i also work from home on my pc. the perks, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Mhoram Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Re: Fantasy Hero Hardcover i also work from home on my pc. the perks' date=' huh?[/quote'] :eg: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning91 Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Re: Fantasy Hero Hardcover Any word on whether the hard-cover FH will have: Corrected errata Page numbers referencing 5er vice FRed Updated bibliography (one of the hi-lites of the book imho) Sample characters which reflect racial package deals New material:D Just curious. I will attempt to purchase one if they go on-sale in the on-line store, regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Re: Fantasy Hero Hardcover 1 - yes 2 - yes 3-5 - no according to all things I gather from both Steve and Darren in their chats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolitonMan Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Re: Fantasy Hero Hardcover Any word yet on if there were any leftovers from GenCon on the HC Fantasy Hero book? Mr. Long? I checked the store earlier and didn't see any, but thought that perhaps the site hadn't yet been updated. I'd really like one; if you did run out, what are the chances of another print run? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Mhoram Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Re: Fantasy Hero Hardcover Steve said in another thread that they didn't get there in time for the con - they took about a dozen pre-orders and they have 100. Hasn't hit the store yet. I know I want one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolitonMan Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Re: Fantasy Hero Hardcover Cool! Thanks for the update, m'Lord! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Mhoram Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Re: Fantasy Hero Hardcover No probs. I saw it just before I saw your post on the fantasy HERO book question in the Company questions forum. Me I am checking every hour to see if it is added to the online store, and will order it the second I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Re: Fantasy Hero Hardcover They normally wait for the boxes to arrive back from conventions before putting them up in the store. I say Thurs or Fri unless they take their time winding their way from wherever... It depends on why they were delayed and didn't make GenCon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loxly Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Re: Fantasy Hero Hardcover I see that PA Hero is there in the store ... no FH HArdcover yet though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudboy Posted August 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Re: Fantasy Hero Hardcover Yep....still waiting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Long Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Re: Fantasy Hero Hardcover The FH Hardcover is being handled by a different printer than our standard; otherwise we couldn't afford to do it, with such a small print run. We haven't received them yet at the warehouse, but have no fear that when we do we'll make announcements to that effect. In answer to another question -- the FH HC corrects known typos and errata, and is updated to 5ER page references. It doesn't contain any new material, or any expansions of the Bibliography. Sadly, these days my "leisure reading" is always devoted to whatever our next genre book is -- last year I didn't get to read any Fantasy because I was reading up for PAH; this year I won't get to read any mainstream Fantasy because I'm focusing entirely on Urban Fantasy. Eventually I'll get back to being able to read "whatever I want to," which may lead to some sort of online expansion of various bibliographies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Mhoram Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Re: Fantasy Hero Hardcover The FH Hardcover is being handled by a different printer than our standard; otherwise we couldn't afford to do it' date=' with such a small print run. We haven't received them yet at the warehouse, but have no fear that when we do we'll make announcements to that effect. [/quote'] Thanks for the update Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texaspoet Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Re: Fantasy Hero Hardcover What about something like a Lulu or Cafepress edition, so that when people want it, they print it then? I don't know the intricacies involved, but my wife and I publish our books that way. We send a current .pdf to them, and people order directly from the print on demand guys, and we don't really have to do /any/ work, past creating the first .pdf. Now I know you guys are a much huger company than us, and doing business on that scale is greatly different than our mom and pop shop, but it seems a way for the drooling fan who is dieing to have a bound copy of the Fantasy Hero book (erm, that's me I'm talking about) to get one without much work. Anyhoo, just the rabid thoughts of a twenty year dedicated fan. Drool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remjin Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Re: Fantasy Hero Hardcover What about something like a Lulu or Cafepress edition' date=' so that when people want it, they print it then? I don't know the intricacies involved, but my wife and I publish our books that way. We send a current .pdf to them, and people order directly from the print on demand guys, and we don't really have to do /any/ work, past creating the first .pdf. Now I know you guys are a much huger company than us, and doing business on that scale is greatly different than our mom and pop shop, but it seems a way for the drooling fan who is dieing to have a bound copy of the Fantasy Hero book (erm, that's me I'm talking about) to get one without much work. Anyhoo, just the rabid thoughts of a twenty year dedicated fan. Drool.[/quote'] I think, if you know a printhouse, you can just get it printed for you from a pdf. No idea on cost, though. We have a few of those around here somewhere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texaspoet Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Re: Fantasy Hero Hardcover I want it bound hehe I have a print out of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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