Crypt Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 i'm currently working on a free 3D star mapping software to be used with STAR HERO. http://cryptmaster.free.fr/test3D/SHA.zip launch: SH_Astrogator.exe you will need .NET Framework 3.5 or Higher => http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/netframework/aa569263.aspx your DirectX must be up to date (march 2008+)==> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=740AC79A-5B72-447D-84F9-EE6407ED1A91&displaylang=en It works on XP SP2 and VISTA SP1. This is an ALPHA. This is just the beginning. Datas are stored in a xml file. By now you can zoom, rotate, select a star and a destination star (this computes distance), enter local scale by zooming in a star, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
culhwch Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Re: 3D Star mapping software Oh, this is very cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maur Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Re: 3D Star mapping software Heheh, Trantor Sol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolgroth Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Re: 3D Star mapping software Nice. Looking forward to seeing this project mature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aroooo Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 I'll toss in this question just 'cause I'm in an ornery mood Mac version eventually (though I suspect I already know the answer...)? But I have Parallels so I can live with a PC only version Aroooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crypt Posted February 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Re: 3D Star mapping software I'll toss in this question just 'cause I'm in an ornery mood Mac version eventually (though I suspect I already know the answer...)? But I have Parallels so I can live with a PC only version Aroooo you could try that: http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page i would not bet on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSandman Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Re: 3D Star mapping software Verrra Interresting! I'll take a look at the xml later to see if I can easily modify my System Generator to output something usefull.. (well, maybe after some cleanup of my Chef Boyardee's Spaghetti Code Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crypt Posted February 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Re: 3D Star mapping software right now the xml datas are very simples (name, x, y, z, spectrum, size and a generic information field) because i'm mainly working on the UI. ====> it would be more logical for me to adapt my xml to yours. i'm very interested in your generator (which language ?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dholcrist Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Re: 3D Star mapping software Just out of curiosity, and I'm sure the answer is no, but I'll ask anyways. Any chance that you'll actually input all the planets that are listed in the TE galaxy map, or are you just going for a program to be used for generic Star Hero games? I only ask cause I've been working on creating the entire TE galaxy in a similar program, and recently lost a lot of work I had put into it, and as such have become incredibly lazy. Either way, awesome stuff. Rep! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crypt Posted February 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Re: 3D Star mapping software This is to be used for generic StarHero games. (i also make it for a friend who's currently GMing a D6 campaign in a self made world.) I don't have the Terran Empire, Worlds of Empire and Alien Wars books (yet), but i guess it will be possible to insert datas from these books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crypt Posted February 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 Re: 3D Star mapping software ANY COMMENT ABOUT THE CURRENT ALPHA UI WOULD BE NICE => Lclick: selection Ctrl+LClick: select and zoom to Shift + LClick: destination RClick + Move: rotate Wheel: zoom Return : enter or leave planetary mode (can also be enter/leave by zooming in/out) +: zoom increment +1 -: zoom increment -1 NOTE: The only two test systems containing planets are Sol and Trantor Sol. (launch the software, Left click on Sol and press Return => you will enter the Sol system.) To be fixed : - when clicking on "Stop" button or on one of the informations boxes (stars,planet or debug) the wheel event no longer work (press one of the checkboxes and it works again, .....weird.) I've tried to force the form focus but it did not solve the problem. Next steps: - optimize datas storage/loading - nicer informations panels and more datas - moons - sectors - UI for editing datas - click on stars/planets/moons in information panels to select it in the 3d view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSandman Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Re: 3D Star mapping software i'm very interested in your generator (which language ?) Perl, put together with bailing wire and leftover strings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crypt Posted February 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Re: 3D Star mapping software Now any scale could be used. The default ones are (minimum values) = 1 interStellar pt=0,0001ly 1 interPlanetary pt= 15000km =0,0001au but ly and au are still the basic units for xml datas (ex: orbit 1,02 = 1,02 au; star.X -5,4 = -5,4 ly, etc...) I tough about using rad (planetary radius) for moons but now i think the interPlan scale is precise enough to use Km. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSandman Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Re: 3D Star mapping software Internally, I use AU for planetary orbits and planetary radii for moons. I then convert to km... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crypt Posted February 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Re: 3D Star mapping software you're right, i will use planet radius. this is animated => (orbits are still circular...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSandman Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Re: 3D Star mapping software you're right' date=' i will use planet radius.[/quote'] I simply took what was in Star Hero and translated in Perl... I added some info that I wanted to add and that was easy to add (like the complete orbital parameters which are mostly randomized 0-360 numbers ;p) I found most of the formulas on Wikipedia and had to remember some algebra to get it right... I tested almost every parameters with the information for Earth found on Wikipedia... Use whatever you like, whatever it's easier for you... AU is easier for Planetary Orbits because you're not dealing with very big number and it can be transformed to whatever you like after that... same for planetary radii which are too small for AU but too big for km... That and the fact that they used radii in Star Hero and I didn't want to transcode every change on all formulas/tables Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crypt Posted March 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 Re: 3D Star mapping software I'm back on the project after several days of pause. I've fixed the moons selection problem and add a proportional zoom. The very next steps are: - to fix the moons orbit speeds. (they are too fast) - the double/triple stars problem. - elliptic orbits..... Next ones will be: - asteroids belts - sectors - surfaces lighting Then: - more useful datas (governments, security, etc....) - datas edition and data UI improvements. - tools like computing range / ship's engine, etc.... Then: Anything else that's funny: - tiny ships models - black holes, etc..... - etc.... Then : - generators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maur Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Re: 3D Star mapping software Then - a ship generator - a ship combat engine - a planetary invasion engine - a factions system ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crypt Posted March 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Re: 3D Star mapping software and we would call it Elite 4......... hmm, i'm not so much ambitious. David Braben was a genius. If you don't know what i'm talking about => http://www.tomatarium.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/glfrontier.html this is an open gl adaptation of one of the three best video games ever made (the other ones are Nethack and Dungeon Master) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 Re: 3D Star mapping software Frontier did suffer from some bugginess though, I remember. I think it was very easy to accidentally avoid the main plot too. However, that beign said, Elite and its sequels were groundbreaking for genre, scope and use of technology. Such a big universe in such a small file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crypt Posted March 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Re: 3D Star mapping software target plateform changed to 3.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crypt Posted March 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Re: 3D Star mapping software BlackAngus told me he had trouble launching it (under 3.5 framework + VISTA) could someone else with .NET 3.5 and/or VISTA tell me if it works ? http://cryptmaster.free.fr/test3D/SHA.zip PS: be sure your browser does not "download" a previous cached version. PPS: multiple stars (double, triple, etc) added. Their coord must be the same as the primary one. Stars ids must be correct or it will crash. see Trantor Triple for an example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyrm Ouroboros Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Re: 3D Star mapping software I've got a previous (non-Vista) Windows (2000, I think, but don't quote me) and I'm having problems launching it, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crypt Posted March 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 i don't understand what happens... Did you launch "SH_Astrogator.exe" ? Did you get an error message ? Which one ? Did you install .Net Framework 3.5 ? I don't know if it's supposed to work on W2000.... It works on my PC (XP SP2 + NET 3.5) and on the notebook of a friend (XP+3.5 too. I don't know if SP2 is installed on his pc.) I use VS2008 so i think it should work on any XP_SP2 or VISTA PC. EDIT: it may comes from DirectX. I use DX 9c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crypt Posted March 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Re: 3D Star mapping software did anyone succeed in launching it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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