bigbywolfe Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Re: Faith, Courage and Humble Obedience Actually' date=' the Bible (not a bad reference about faith ) define it as "the firm believe in invisible things we know will be happening but that we are not deemed to see". [/quote'] Can you reference that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKerensky Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Re: Faith, Courage and Humble Obedience Can you reference that? Hebrew 11:1 , depend on translation and quotation from head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibear Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Re: Faith, Courage and Humble Obedience It is whatever the player wants it to be. If he says presence and pays the points for it then that is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Re: Faith, Courage and Humble Obedience It is whatever the player wants it to be. If he says presence and pays the points for it then that is what it is. correction - its whatever the GM will LET it be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibear Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Re: Faith, Courage and Humble Obedience true enough but why would a GM have a problem with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbywolfe Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Re: Faith, Courage and Humble Obedience The GM explained that in the beginning of the thread. He and the player think it should be different things (EGO vs PRE) and the player is arguing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Re: Faith, Courage and Humble Obedience also, the GM may have a clear idea of the role of God(s) in his campaign, especially in a Fantasy setting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSgt Baloo Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Re: Faith, Courage and Humble Obedience In short' date=' resisting a succubus' charm is EGO. Commanding that succubus to go away is PRE.[/quote'] Asking her if she can get a date for your friend? Priceless. But my suggestion is to give the priest a Contact with their Higher Power' date=' and use that Contact roll as the "Skill Roll" for the powers.[/quote'] Excellent idea! I plan to steal benchmark that construct henceforth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodkins Odds Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Re: Faith, Courage and Humble Obedience NOTE 1: Any miracle abilities built on a Faith ability should probably not manifest in an overly obvious manner, or the Faith effectively become a Certainty (no need for belief when you have proof). EDIT: As Markdoc pointed out while I was writing my post. I don't know, I'm pretty sure summoning bears to eat some children and calling meteors down on soldiers is pretty obvious, but I can't think of anyone who would say that Elisha didn't have faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Waters Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Re: Faith, Courage and Humble Obedience I refuse to prove my own existence, said God, because proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing. The Babel Fish (a fish which you opo in your ear and which then feeds off the telepathic matrix of your brain and any around you, excreting language as sound, effectively translating for you to and from any language) was used as the definiive proof of the non-existance of God. Look, said Man, it is so mindboglingly improbable that anything so incredibly useful could have evolved by chance that it PROVES the existence of God, because it could only have come into existence by the will of an intelligent creator. That proves you exist and therefore you don't. Ah, said God, I hadn't thought of that, and vanishes in a puff of logic. That was easy, said Man, and went on to prove that black was white and got killed ont he next zebra crossing. Meanwhile the Babel Fish, by effectively removing all barriers to communication, caused more and bloodier wars than anything else in the history of the Universe. DARIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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