Challenge: Build the AC-130U and A-10 Assault Aircraft (for shadowcat1313)

[AlHazred]

Seriously, I'd like to see someone stat up the A-130U and A-10 aircraft. They seem excessively kick-ass for something in use by the Army. I'm not really a military tech-geek, so I defer to others more savvy.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_AC-130

The AC-130 is basically a flying fortress that fires a howitzer out of the side of the aircraft, like a freakin' flying General Lee or something.

 

General characteristics

* Crew: 13

o Officers: 5 (pilot, copilot, navigator, fire control officer, electronic warfare officer)

o Enlisted: 8 (flight engineer, TV operator, infrared detection set operator, loadmaster, four aerial gunners)

* Length: 97 ft 10 in (29.8 m)

* Wingspan: 132 ft 7 in (40.4 m)

* Height: 38 ft 6 in (11.7 m)

* Wing area: 1745.5 ft² (162.2 m²)

* Loaded weight: 122,400 lb (55,520 kg)

* Max takeoff weight: 155,000 lb (69,750 kg)

* Powerplant: 4× Allison T56-A-15 turboprops, 4,910 shp (3,700 kW) each

 

Performance

* Maximum speed: 260 knots (300 mph, 480 km/h)

* Range: 2,200 nm (2,530 mi, 4,070 km)

* Service ceiling: 30,000 ft (9,100 m)

 

Armament

AC-130A Project Gunship II

* 4× 7.62 mm GAU-2/A miniguns

* 4× 20 mm M61 Vulcan cannon

 

AC-130A Surprise Package, Pave Pronto, AC-130E Pave Spectre

* 2× 7.62 mm GAU-2/A miniguns

* 2× 20 mm M61 Vulcan cannon

* 2× 40 mm (1.58 in) L/60 Bofors cannon

 

AC-130E Pave Aegis

* 2× 20 mm M61 Vulcan cannon

* 1× 40 mm (1.58 in) L/60 Bofors cannon

* 1× 105 mm (4.13 in) M102 howitzer

 

AC-130H Spectre

(Prior to circa 2000)

* 2× 20 mm M61 Vulcan cannon

* 1× 40 mm (1.58 in) L/60 Bofors cannon

* 1× 105 mm (4.13 in) M102 howitzer

 

(Current Armament)

* 1× 40 mm (1.58 in) L/60 Bofors cannon

* 1× 105 mm (4.13 in) M102 howitzer

 

AC-130U Spooky II

* 1× 25 mm (0.984 in) 5-barrel GAU-12/U Equalizer Gatling gun

* 1× 40 mm (1.58 in) L/60 Bofors cannon

* 1× 105 mm (4.13 in) M102 howitzer

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairchild_Republic_A-10_Thunderbolt_II

Meanwhile, the A-10 Warthog is just ridiculous-looking. Its Gatling Cannon is bigger than a VW beetle!

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General characteristics

* Crew: 1

* Length: 53 ft 4 in (16.26 m)

* Wingspan: 57 ft 6 in (17.53 m)

* Height: 14 ft 8 in (4.47 m)

* Wing area: 506 ft² (47.0 m²)

* Airfoil: NACA 6716 root, NACA 6713 tip

* Empty weight: 24,959 lb (11,321 kg)

* Loaded weight: 30,384 lb (13,782 kg)) On CAS mission: 47,094 lb (21,361 kg)

On anti-armor mission: 42,071 lb (19,083 kg

* Max takeoff weight: 50,000 lb (23,000 kg)

* Powerplant: 2× General Electric TF34-GE-100A turbofans, 9,065 lbf (40.32 kN) each

 

Performance

 

* Never exceed speed: 450 knots (518 mph, 833 km/h) at 5,000 ft (1,500 m) with 18 Mk 82 bombs

* Maximum speed: 381 knots (439 mph, 706 km/h) at sea level, clean

* Cruise speed: 300 knots (340 mph, 560 km/h)

* Stall speed: 120 knots (138 mph, 220 km/h)

* Combat radius:

o On CAS mission: 250 nmi (288 mi, 460 km) at 1.88 hour single-engine loiter at 5,000 ft (1,500 m), 10 min combat

o On anti-armor mission: 252 nmi (290 mi, 467 km), 40 nm (45 mi, 75 km) sea-level penetration and exit, 30 min combat

* Ferry range: 2,240 nmi (2,580 mi, 4,150 km) with 50 knot (55 mph, 90 km/h) headwinds, 20 minutes reserve

* Service ceiling: 45,000 ft (13,700 m)

* Rate of climb: 6,000 ft/min (30 m/s)

* Wing loading: 99 lb/ft² (482 kg/m²)

* Thrust/weight: 0.36

 

Armament

* Guns: 1× 30 mm (1.18 in) GAU-8/A Avenger gatling cannon with 1,174 rounds

* Hardpoints: 11 (8× under-wing and 3× under-fuselage pylon stations) with a capacity of 16,000 lb (7,260 kg) and provisions to carry combinations of:

o Rockets:

+ 4× LAU-61/LAU-68 rocket pods (each with 19× / 7× Hydra 70 mm rockets, respectively)

+ 4× LAU-5003 rocket pods (each with 19× CRV7 70 mm rockets)

+ 6× LAU-10 rocket pods (each with 4× 127 mm (5.0 in) Zuni rockets)

o Missiles:

+ 2× AIM-9 Sidewinders air-to-air missiles for self-defense

+ 8× AGM-65 Maverick air-to-surface missiles

o Bombs:

+ Mark 80 series of unguided iron bombs or

+ Mk 77 incendiary bombs or

+ BLU-1, BLU-27/B Rockeye II, Mk20, BL-755 and CBU-52/58/71/87/89/97 cluster bombs or

+ Paveway series of Laser-guided bombs or

+ Joint Direct Attack Munition (A-10C) or

+ Wind Corrected Munitions Dispenser (A-10C)

o Other:

+ SUU-42A/A Flares/Infrared decoys and chaff dispenser pod or

+ AN/ALQ-131 & AN/ALQ-184 ECM pods or

+ Lockheed Martin Sniper XR & LITENING targeting pods (A-10C) or

+ 2× 600 US gallon Sargent Fletcher drop tanks for extended range/loitering time.

 

Avionics

* AN/AAS-35(V) Pave Penny laser tracker pod (mounted beneath right side of cockpit) for use with Paveway LGBs

* Head-up display (HUD) for improved technical flying and air-to-ground support.

[concord]

Re: Challenge: Build the AC-130U and A-10 Assault Aircraft (for shadowcat1313)

 

shadowcat1313's A-10 Warthog can be found in either of these two posts...

 

http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php/79631-Shadowcats-Vehicular-Insanity-Shop-04052010-Collection?p=2011557#post2011557

 

http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php/79536-Shadowcats-Vehicular-Insanity-Shop-A-10C-Warthog-V2?p=2009329#post2009329

[AlHazred]

Re: Challenge: Build the AC-130U and A-10 Assault Aircraft (for shadowcat1313)

 

Interestingly, I searched the forums before and didn't find it; maybe I misspelled it?

[Ian Mackinder]

Re: Challenge: Build the AC-130U and A-10 Assault Aircraft (for shadowcat1313)

 

Seriously' date=' I'd like to see someone stat up the A-130U and A-10 aircraft. They seem excessively kick-ass for something in use by the Army. I'm not really a military tech-geek, so I defer to others more savvy. [/quote']

 

To nit-pick in the nicest possible way, both these aircraft are operated by the US Air Force, NOT the Army. As is noted on their Wiki entries.

[megaplayboy]

Re: Challenge: Build the AC-130U and A-10 Assault Aircraft (for shadowcat1313)

 

If you really want to blow up the damage curve, stipulate that a Maverick ATGM can one-shot an Abrams(I believe this is still true?), regardless of where it hits.

 

7.62mm NATO = 2d6+1 KA, +1 STUN Multiple (about 8-9 DC)

20mm M-61 should be = 3d6+1/+1 STUN or 3.5d6/+1 STUN (12 to 14 DC)

25mm , go up 1 DC and change the +1 STUN to AP: 3.5d6 AP or 4d6 AP(up to 15 DC)

30mm, 4d6 AP Pen +1 STUN (Note that modern tank defenses are not Impenetrable...yet). (24 DC!)

 

ROF should be either AF 10/20, or maybe a funky AoE with doubled damage and reduced penetration(IOW, if you're in the AoE, you're getting tagged by a couple rounds, at least).

 

The 105 mm is a 4.5 d6 or 5d6 AoE Explosion, 32m radius

 

cluster bombs will cover a fairly large radius relatively evenly, so maybe a straight AoE rather than explosion for that

[shadowcat1313]

Re: Challenge: Build the AC-130U and A-10 Assault Aircraft (for shadowcat1313)

 

both the AC-130 variants and the A-10 are up on surbrooks site actually

http://surbrook.devermore.net/adaptationsvehicles/militaryair/postwar/usa/a_10_warthog.HTML

http://surbrook.devermore.net/adaptationsvehicles/militaryair/postwar/usa/ac_130_spectre_gunship.HTML

[shadowcat1313]

Re: Challenge: Build the AC-130U and A-10 Assault Aircraft (for shadowcat1313)

 

the USMC is also fielding a gunship module kit so they can keep some of their C-130 tankers for both uses

[shadowcat1313]

Re: Challenge: Build the AC-130U and A-10 Assault Aircraft (for shadowcat1313)

 

you can also find the AC-47 "Puff the Magic Dragon" there

[AlHazred]

Re: Challenge: Build the AC-130U and A-10 Assault Aircraft (for shadowcat1313)

 

My understanding was that these are US Army support vehicles. The Air Force deprecates them because the service is about air superiority, while these craft are unlikely to ever down an enemy jet.

[shadowcat1313]

Re: Challenge: Build the AC-130U and A-10 Assault Aircraft (for shadowcat1313)

 

the Marine gunship/tanker project is called Harvest Hawk

theres also an C-27J "Stinger II" gunship project

the maintenance time on the C-130s due to airframe wear and tear alone is putting a crimp on their use.

[shadowcat1313]

Re: Challenge: Build the AC-130U and A-10 Assault Aircraft (for shadowcat1313)

 

I've seen a figure of 14 hours of maintenance needed per hour the gunships are in the air reported several places

CAPT. JAMES MAY [AC-130 Maintenance Officer]: We’re flying the wings off them literally.

 

MARTIN: Capt. James May says cracks are already starting to show in the wings, which will have to be replaced five years ahead of schedule – and that’s just the wings. For every hour of flying, a gunship needs 14 hours of maintenance.

 

MAY: These airframes are getting so old that we’ve got stuff breaking on them that has never broken before.

 

MARTIN: But on this flight, it’s the guns that break down. First, the 40mm cannon jams –

 

CREW MEMBER: This is horrible.

 

MARTIN: – then the big 105mm Howitzer refuses to fire on automatic. A few love taps with a wrench, but still no go.

 

CREW MEMBER: They’re just old and tired. It’s all right, old girl.

 

for emergency field repairs whats the modifier for "Love Tap with a Wrench"

 

the above conversation snippet was from a CBS evening news interview

 

by comparison the F-15 requires 8-10 hours IIRC

[Major Tom 2009]

Re: Challenge: Build the AC-130U and A-10 Assault Aircraft (for shadowcat1313)

 

My understanding was that these are US Army support vehicles. The Air Force deprecates them because the service is about air superiority' date=' while these craft are unlikely to ever down an enemy jet. [/quote']

 

That's true enough where the Spectre is concerned; the Thunderbolt II/Warthog, on

the other hand... well, let's just say that, should the pilot of this particular bird find

an enemy plane in his gunsight and well within his range, he'll hardly be deterred

from sending a burst of 30mm shells up the other guy's fourth point of contact.

 

 

Major Tom 2009