Does not work with [targeting sense]

[whitekeys]

How do I build an attack power that does not, and cannot, utilize a specific type of targeting sense?

 

The example power is a lock-on missile. it uses the Radio group of the vehicle's senses to target foes. If the radio group is flashed, or Darkness is used against it, it should suffer similar penalties as if a regular human had been blinded. It cannot properly be fired without its guidance system.

[Steve Long]

Re: Does not work with [targeting sense]

 

Since this is a how-to rather than a rules question, I've moved it to the Discussion forum.

[Christopher]

Re: Does not work with [targeting sense]

 

How do I build an attack power that does not, and cannot, utilize a specific type of targeting sense?

 

The example power is a lock-on missile. it uses the Radio group of the vehicle's senses to target foes. If the radio group is flashed, or Darkness is used against it, it should suffer similar penalties as if a regular human had been blinded. It cannot properly be fired without its guidance system.

How is the missile build?

How is the launcher build?

 

And most importantly: Is this really a limitation?

In the chase of a radar-guided missile: Nope, it's most likely not really a limitation. Radars will most likely have a way longer detection range than any form of sight (even infrared).

In fact I think that missile guidance system has to be build as +x OCV CSL, to offest the humongous velocity based DCV of the target. When Mach is 1.000 km/h, a Mach one target makes 3 1/3 km's/turn (12 second or 1/300 of an hour) and thus has a Velocity based DCV of 13.

 

But if this is more in general: Most mental powers have an Limitation for "not targetable via Mind Scan". And Mind Scan is a targetting sense for mental powers.

[dsatow]

Re: Does not work with [targeting sense]

 

Sounds like a limitation to me, Must Target with X sense (-1/4).

[Christopher]

Re: Does not work with [targeting sense]

 

Sounds like a limitation to me' date=' Must Target with X sense (-1/4).[/quote']

Again, it depends on what Range the targetting sense has and if using him has any penalties.

 

For example:

The radar has a range of about 30 kilometers

And that is for "a mobile, short range system". Here having to use radar is hardly a disadvantage, considering that it most likely has a big amount of telescopic or even megascale and is easy to use (nowhere near how difficulty Mind Scan is).

[dmjalund]

Re: Does not work with [targeting sense]

 

Again, it depends on what Range the targetting sense has and if using him has any penalties.

 

For example:

 

And that is for "a mobile, short range system". Here having to use radar is hardly a disadvantage, considering that it most likely has a big amount of telescopic or even megascale and is easy to use (nowhere near how difficulty Mind Scan is).

but he DOES pay points for the Extra range, right?

[Christopher]

Re: Does not work with [targeting sense]

 

but he DOES pay points for the Extra range' date=' right?[/quote']

Yes, he pays a lot to:

- have a targettings sense with a lot of range

- have a attack with a similar range

- being able to hit a target moving around the speed of sound or faster

 

Depending on just how detailed you want it to be, might be best to design the missile as a Automaton, maybe vehicle with AI. This automaton has only one attack with HTH-range and "blows up"/"takes full damage self" Side Effect, one targetting sense with a limitation "only programmed target" and a simple "ram programmed target" programm or order.

Then the defense could be done by flashing the missiles targettings sense. And I don't think the radar on the ground needs any targetting, only discriminatory.

Launching the missle would be a Summon with the Limiations: Succesfull Perception Roll with Discriminatory radar sense, Sucessfull systems operation roll.

At least that is the classical "Fire and Forget" missile with radar guidance.

 

There is also the wire guided missile:

Certainly the radar needs no targetting, it only has to give you the direction. Advantage is that you can use advanced control system in the lauching vehicle (in chase of the optically wgm maybe even the gunner). The disadvatange is that you have to be relatively stationary or the wire would gut (Concentration, 1/2 DCV or 0 DCV for the firing vehicle).

Would propably build this as a summon with linked posession or Mind Link between missle and computer/pilot. The points you save on the AI/orders can be used to increase the firepower.