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Re: Worst comic book superfight ever That's not how comic books work. The artist takes the plot the writer gives and uses the panels to tell the story by giving us glimpses of what's going on. The dialogue is also used to do the same even though it often would be impossible for the dialogue and the scenes in the panels to truly match up if the story was done on a stage. You can count panels and try to argue real time all you want but it's a bit silly considering that's not what the artists and writers are likely to be trying to represent.

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Re: Worst comic book superfight ever Guys, don't distort someone arguments just to try to get the "win". One of you guys claimed that the space gun was ramped up on lots of extra energy for an extra special super big ray blast thingie. GAry was pointing out that was unlikely to be all that much power.

Re: Worst comic book superfight ever Ah, but Galactus can, with a mere thought, endow someone with the Power Cosmic. Stands to reason he can disintegrate them just as easily.

Re: Worst comic book superfight ever (1) That's so trite. (2) The Silver Surfer is no match for Galactus (3) That's "cheating". How could Reed Richards threaten someone who can give others the Power Cosmic? Galactus could have simply disintegrated Reed where he stood before Reed could have used the Ultimate Nullifier. Fat lot of good the Ultimate Nullifier is to someone who ranks up there with Death and Eternity.

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Re: College Professor Skill Level I don't see why you disagree with my point. If an observer is to make a decision based demonstrated skills, the average primary and secondary school instructor will more likely demonstrate a wider range of teaching skills as they have a responsibility to a wide range of types of learners and the college or university instructor will more likely demonstrate fewer methods of teaching while demonstrating a greater deal of content knowledge. As a student at a university and as a student and teacher at primary and secondary schools (and as someone who has discussed this very issue with several university instructors) - I have to say the most skilled teachers are definitely those at primary and secondary schools, in terms of methodology, whereas the greatest content expertise was definitely to be found at the university level. Frankly, I would say many teachers have a greater relative command of content than many university instructors have a command of teaching methodology.

Re: Worst comic book superfight ever Based on Chuckg's position, I alluded to this earlier but I think it should be mentioned again. If I use his criteria, which McCoy and Suleyman Rashid both seem to support - enough that they wish to rep him for providing the criteria - then why haven't any of them nominated the bulk of conflicts between Galactus and Earth's Superheroes? By their criteria, the Fantastic Four's continual success against Galactus is a much worse comic book superfight than Spidey vs. Firelord. Marvel Earth should have been destroyed a long time ago - for continuity's sake.

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Re: Worst comic book superfight ever Yep, and that's why Spidey holds back until someone like Firelord pushes him so hard his inhibitions just flat go away and boom! Spidey pummels him unconscious. Very consistent with what I've read about Spider-Man.

Re: Worst comic book superfight ever That the Fantastic Four, who in their very famous skirmish with Spider-Man had a great deal of trouble trying to deal with him - That fleet which the FF has more than once mown through like it wasn't there. The Skrull starfleet is a group of mooks in space. Does he really get hit by 'all the power we have to spare' or does he get hit by a space gun on a big spaceship? Conversing with the Beyonder? Nope, he's talking to himself, blathering because he's been knocked stupid.

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Re: College Professor Skill Level I don't agree with that. Teaching students untrained in learning means teaching them how to learn and teaching them content. If you are teaching an academic subject that means knowing content and knowing a suite of techniques to train the students to become self-learners. A college instructor can assume that his/her students already have a background in self-learning. College students may learn to use a library in a more sophisticated manner or learn a new style of documentation for their research papers but they generally won't be taught skills designed to show them how to read more effectively, take notes, and the like. College instructors need to know more content but they really don't have to develop the skills to "rescue" a student who has poor learning skills.

Re: Worst comic book superfight ever Spider-Man has been consistently shown to be an expert "pusher" drawing on reserves 'he never knew he blah blah blah' so often that it is consistent. Firelord's defenses and powers are simply not as consistently portrayed as you guys think based on my reads of the character, oh so many moons ago.

Re: Worst comic book superfight ever I can see it now. The new, more plausible, Amazing Spider-Man! "Spider-Man has the flu with a 104 degree fever, he has cracked ribs from combat with the Scorpion, his arm is in sling from a gun wound caused by Kraven the Hunter, and now he's in a fight for his life against Electro in a power station who is physically stronger than he is and has a lethal ranged attack. In the old days, we would have Spider-Man find a way to win to show the indomitable spirit and desparate ingenuity that he's capable of - a hero of heroes - but that just isn't very plausible. Electro tosses out a barrage of lightning bolts and a weak, sickened Spider-Man dodges quite a few but just can't keep it up and is electrocuted. It's not very plausible that he would survive that so now Peter Parker is dead. Aunt May is heartbroken and dies within days of the discovery by the police that Peter is Spider-Man and that he is dead. Mary Jane is depressed and gets a little too obsessed with her career and turns to cocaine and becomes anorexic to boot. After a few years moving towards death's door, she recovers, and writes a book about her experiences promoting it with interviews on Good Morning America and Entertainment Tonight... right before Galactus shows up and eats the planet because it's just not very plausible than any group of Earth superheroes could stop him.

Re: Worst comic book superfight ever Sure. There's nothing quite as exciting as knowing exactly which opponent will win and which will lose before you read the story. Heck, they should having flashing neon numbers on the chests of each character representing their power rank so we can just skip reading the fight.

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Re: Worst comic book superfight ever Why don't you understand that all of your assertions amount to "could ofs" and that you haven't demonstrated anything that points to greater probabilities on your part.

Re: Worst comic book superfight ever You are seriously going to use evidence that Firelord can cause a condemned building to collapse as an example of an area affect attack?

Re: Worst comic book superfight ever Inconsistencies are in the eye of the beholder. The next thing you're going to tell everyone is that superpowers are inconsistent with what we know about physics and physiology.