Re: Ctrl+V
Oh speaking of Stealth, I remember a 3.5 game once in which all of the players had fairly stealthy, skirmisher type characters (an archer ranger that sniped from the trees, a dual wielding dagger rogue/swashbuckler/invisible blade, and an orc barbarian) and one was a fully decked out sword and board Fighter in full plate.
We were all max ranked stealthy characters and even the Barbarian had a decent Dex (so he could max out with his Breastplate), but the Fighter had a negative modifier to his check when his armor/shield/gear and pitiful Dex was taken into account.
At this point, while it was just proposed as a joke, I realized that the Orc, who had A Strength of, I believe, 24, could actually carry the human fighter, and, even considering the weight of the Fighter and all his gear, still have a bonus in excess of +10.
So, this guy walking on his own, had something like a -5 to Stealth. This guy being cradled by his Orc buddy had something like a +15 to Stealth. Totally ridiculous.