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Re: WWYCD: Holocaust for the Holidays *grim*

Hmm, why not, there's several different reactions amongst my PCs.

Kid Dynamo, my boy android: There's only one team-mate who's got family, and that's his best friend, Centurion. Bad news there, my creator, Doc Armitage is an old friend of the family and was the one who cybernetically rebuilt their son after a near fatal car whreck. The doc spends most of his holidays over there as he's short on family members these days. Only reason the Kid wouldn't be there is that he's obviously put off X-mas shopping again.

This means the Doc was up against the wall along with everyone else. Kiss the No-Killing Perameters goodbye, 'cause it's time to fire up the chainsaw hands & laser beam eyes. Kid dynamo was always a failure in the whole human-empathy end of the simulated life experience anyway.

Gallant: On the one hand, killing is wrong. On the other hand, them killing a whole family was not exactly an act of justice. As an agent of PRIMUS, Gallant's going to have to take his teammate into custody. Safest place is with the team, though. We're calling in as many agents as we can and leaving no stone unturned. After that comes one nasty clean-up, legally & psychologically speaking.

Thunderbolt: Man, things just get messier every year. He's been a superhero for 50-odd years and this is a new low. Fine. He's going to be very angry in a very tightly controlled way, blindside his teammate with a PRE attack and convince him to remand himself into custody. After that, T-bolt's going to persuade the authorities that he will be in on this investigation every step of the way. He'l call in every favor and contact he has to and use every resource normal, mystical and superhuman to end this with no more death. But it's going to END!

Doremo: Well, his response is incredibly simple. After doing his best to calm his distraught teammate, assuming it isn't Kid Fist who's lost his family ('cause that means Doremo saw the carnage on the evening news and Kid Fist is lost in the dark hadou again and eating the chi of his enemies), we have to go out hunting. The next set is coming in alive, however. Doremo's reasonably skilled but interrogating a corpse with The Ministrations of the Thirteen Hells isn't gonna work.

Re: Superman's current STR: 365+?

Was the Kryptonian martial art Klurkor? He has one post-Crisis, but it had a lot of mystical stuff attached to it and was wisely forgotten. Lois knew it too.

 

{Researching} Klurkor was pre-Crisis, the post-Crisis martial art had the unfortunate name of Torquasm Vao.

 

Keith "Superman: Your Torquasm Vao is weak, Batman, Weak!!!" Curtis

Well, there's also the ancient art of Horu-Kanu. That's the one Faora Hu-Ul used. Y'know, back on Krypton where she could disembowel people with her fingers. Only makes her nastier to think she was dangerous enough on Krypton to require being stun-blasted from an airship 'cause she killed the cops who touched her. Lucky Superman, he gets a solar-powered serial killer amongst his rogue gallery

That one seemed to be the nastier warrior-art style martial art, as opposed to Klurkor. Horu-Kanu had pressure point techniques to make a Kryptonian's heat vision switch on and stay that way. Try not to think of how useless a move that is where the art was used.

Re: Spell Fu!

While Ranged Martial Arts would indeed go a ways towards equalizing the former archmage and his current opponents, you might want to add in Missile Deflection and/or Reflection to show his greater skills in manipulating mystic power, whether he can currently generate it or not. A small but broadly advantaged Succor or Aid might also work to show how he's going to wring every last drop of juju out of a specific spell. You might also give him some Dispel of a higher DC than expected due to his precision in unravelling the spells of others. Kitting him out with assorted magic-augmenting items might also work, as those high-order mages tend to accumulate artifacts and relics. Even if he hadn't bothered to buy them previously, there's no reason he couldn't carry one or two around now given his currently lowered power and available character points.

Lightning Reflexes vs other spellcasters due to his familiarity with magic combat sounds useful.

Perhaps a Dex Aid based on Analyze: Magic to show how he's effectively outmaneuvering the target.

Then there's the idea of loaning your skill to someone with the opposing problem. Buying Usable by Others on your Magic skill roll or just buying some Aid to their Magic skill, incantations a must as you keep up a stream of advice.

Re: Variable Summoning.

I'd say you should use either the Summon advantage of summoning from a class of creatures or use a Summon multipower that you add slots to once you go through the unlocking storyline and gain XP.

Re: Any interest in V&V converted to Champions?

Add another yes vote from me. I always liked V&V. Seeing a little more of the world hinted at by the books would be quite interesting.

Re: My favorite player ain't coming back

My best friend, the lovely Miss Terror, admited today that she "wasn't that into" the game anymore and while she might return at some point, I shouldn't count on it.

 

I am not exactly surprised. She has been unavailable for game night for a few months now. The game is played in our apartment, so it's not like it was out of her way.

 

So, here's the problem: I run so many subplots that Clairmont would be amazed, at least three are tied strongly to Terror's PC Lillith. In the last game she played Lillith eloped with the prodigal scion of the Unseelie court, so I have used the honeymoon to explain her absence. I have ramped up the plots involing other PCs but I am coming to the point a resolution must come to some of the Lillith plots. I need to bring her husband back but I don't want to run Lillith as a PC. I should kill her off but I don't want to. Anyone else ever have a simular problem?

Hmm. Well, if you need her off-screen but retrievable AND you need her husband back, I can think of at least a couple thematically similar ways.

Turn her to stone & remove her head. Now hubbie needs your PCs to help him get back that blackguard's new paperweight so that the transformation can be undone.

The poison apple method. Knocks her into an "irrevocable" coma via some McGuffin-laced poison that neither Seelie nor Unseelie can directly effect. Make it something to do with one of the fae-banes like rowan or cold iron or some such nonsense. Smells like quest to me.

Trap her in a crystal formed of her own soul. Bust her out the wrong way and she's wormfood.

"That's no dog, that's my wife" A classic for the fae. She's now a small yappy dog, mind and body. This is gonna take some fixing and you can have fun with the jokes about poorly-housebroken pets.

Make her physically & mentally 6 years old. Now hubbie gets to play surrogate dad and you can always just unravel the spell when you need her back.

As an alternate to the statue option, see if the reasoning behind the Black Knight being petrified work. He had his soul sent back to merge with an ancestor in the 12th century and his body turned to stone while he was gone. Maybe someone needs to borrow her essence and will return her ASAP, honest.

It's like it says in the BBB, if you can kill someone you can turn them into something for the same points. Just fiddle with the whole Trigger to undo the Transform and it's all good.

Re: Victorian Robots

As a side note, here's an essay on Tik-tok of Oz, and how he relates to the Three Laws of Robotics.

http://www.depauw.edu/sfs/backissues/14/abrahm14art.htm

Re: CU - Wold Newton

As to Chinese characters of pulp origin, how about the classic orinetal mastermind, Fu Manchu?

http://www.pjfarmer.com/woldnewton/Fumanchu.htm

'Sides, putting him in gives you Shang Chi and that's always a fun thing. anyway, that let's you use him in various Marvel stories involving the Yellow Claw, following your custom of having the original subsume the secondary's activities and position. This should also give you some hang-points for where to use Nick Fury & SHIELD, esp. Jimmy Woo & his battles against the Yellow Claw. After all, Nick is a must-have, for your respectable head of a secret organization. Remember, one of the main opponents of Godzilla in the 70's Marvel stuff was SHIELD.

On another note,

-sarcasm on-

You just had to suck me back into the wold-Newton stuff, didn't you?

-sarcasm off-

Oh, well.

Re: WWYCD? "Once more, with Justice"

I go insane because reality has shifted into a musical and begin systematically killing every living thing.

In that case, may I suggest "I've Got A Little List" from Gilbert & Sullivan's The Mikado. After all, "they never will be missed..."

Re: CU - Wold Newton

Just read the character in DH #19. Very good. The Clint Eastwood "Get three coffins ready" bit is a classic, and I like the Sergio Leone's Japan approach.

 

China in this game world is the China of Wuxia and the pulps, and Japan is the Toho Studios Japan.

In that case, it sounds like the 108 generations of Devil Hunters from the Mano clan would fit in just fine. Devil Hunter Yoko is a Toho creation after all.

Also, does this mean the Green Destiny sword lies waiting to be picked up again by some Kun-Lun-trained martial artist? Perhaps one who walks the path of vengeance like Daniel Rand.

Re: Bah! Speak to me not of your lousy movie opinions!

I been managing to avoid ALL of Farrell's movies, I never liked him.

 

I am not really a "comedy" fan, a lot of them leave me cold or uncomfortable.

I know better now. Pity, though. I like comedies. I like the Marx Brothers and I like dark comedy like Death Becomes Her & Heathers and I like brit-coms, though not all of them. However, I need to listen to the little voice in my head that whispers the plots of movies to me. He's usually right more often than other people. At least I have a useful voice in my head.

Bah! Speak to me not of your lousy movie opinions!

I need to smack my little brother in the head to see if his taste in movies improves. Well, if it just adjusts his attitude about people liking movies, that'd suit me fine too.

We were all home for Thanksgiving dinner and afterwards there was some random discussions as those of us there caught up with each other's lives.

Mine's simple, I work overnight, stay up too late in the mornings and then sleep til two hours before work starts again. Repeat all week, every week. On the side I do some gaming on the weekends, read and watch movies.

Anyway, we were talking movies and Eric was insisting I'd like Napoleon Dynamite. Said if you were patient there were some really funny bits in it. My response was "If I'm gonna watch a comedy I want to laugh more than twice."

Eric: "Geeze, Pat, you really need to give this stuff a chance."

Me: "No. If I'm not being entertained I'm not going to bother watching it."

Eric: "well, you should be more open-minded about these things. Napoleon Dynamite is this independant film that got a lucky break. You should support that kind of thing. We need more independant films."

Me: "NO! we need more good films. Just because it's an indy doesn't make it good OR bad. That has more to do with talent than funding."

Eric: "Well, I still think you're being too close-minded."

Me: "So what. I don't watch comedy to broaden my mind."

Anyway, despite not being around him for years the little weasel can get under my skin like few others. Lousy art-school punk.

Geeze, the last time I listened to someone other than my own instincts about movies I wasted 4 bucks after Agent X's wife said Anchorman was funny. It had maybe 15 minutes of funny. Pity it was an hour and a half long. Man, I freakin' hate Will Farrell.

Re: What Are You Listening To Right Now?

Jethro Tull -Dangerous Veils, 'course by the time I typed this it finished and the Steel Angel Kurumi theme started. Next up, Tsunami Bomb's My Machete.

Re: Why we shouldn't worry about 2020

Party Pooper.

What? Do you actually want CLOWN to come back? What's next, man? Alien mime invasions?

Re: Dear G-D, NOOOOOOOOO!!! I hate Hollywood!

Here's the newest edition of VG Cats, making fun of Episode III. Now imagine all of this happening, except it's happening in X-Men 3. Ewwwww....

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Hah! Awesome!

Re: WWCYD: One for Many?

I don't know a single hero who would accept this lying down.

 

They'd storm the castle and rescue their friend without giving the necromancer back his key, or if they weren't massively moral they'd promise him the key and then go back on their word to bust their friend out.

 

No way hosey. Key and friend, every time.

Amen. All the necromancer can look forward to is a vigorous beating for trying this stunt. If the captive is killed, I expect to see players making that ego roll to ignore the Code Vs Killing.

I'd try to differentiate for some of my characters but not one of them would let this stuff go down the way the necromancer wants it. Frankly, most of these guys would have brought the fortress down around the necromancer's ears during the initial brawl. They're a very destructive lot and often take highly durable suroundings as a personal challenge.

Re: Superskradaptomimic

I agree with Transmetahuman that this name needs to be used. In fact' date=' since the Chimera was three animal heads on one body, perhaps Chimera man can only keep three powers at once, or only copy three supers at once. Which works well in my FtF campaign since I only have three PCs (There are a few NPC teammates, but still).[/quote']

 

If you guys like it, take it. I just thought it'd sound better than Conglomo the Living Compound so I used it.

 

It occurs to me that the Doom Patrol's compund foe was particularly wierd, being the Animal-Vegetable-Mineral Man.

Re: Superskradaptomimic

As much as I love those guys, especially the Super-Skrull, we haven't yet run into it in a Champions game. I've considered it as a character basis, and probably will play a version in a villain game at some point.

 

If they're set to have the same powers as the PC's, I don't see how it would be overwhelming in most instances. A superteam should be able to gang up on the offender pretty well. I mean, superteams often fight master villains that are *more* powerful in each area than they are individually, so fighting someone who's only *as* powerful might even seem like a welcome break.

Well, consider the effects in Hero of a character with the Dex/Spd of the fastest guy in the group, the Str of the strongest guy and the Kung Fu of the martial artist. Should there also be a character who has a focus that deals mighty HA or HKA damage, that stacks in quite well also. If there's Stretching, add that in too.

Look at the Champions for example.

Chimera-Man attacks the Champions and assimilates their aggregate abilities.

Now he's got Str 60, Kung Fu with 4 DCs and a 2d HA. That's like 20d6. Worse if the GM's mean and layers in Defender's battlesuit bonuses. Bad enough that he's already as tough as Ironclad and wearing two flavors of forcefield. Heck, depending on how you wrote him up, he may be strolling around with multiple Multipowers and multiple power attack you with a Flash attack pellet, two 12d EBs and a 9d EB chaser.

Could get rough there.

Re: Superskradaptomimic

I don't know if he'd be classified as a Super Skrull or Amazo' date=' but Lobo for the Justice League was a type of match. He could absorb Green Lantern power and go toe to toe with the heavy weights.[/quote']

 

Nah, Lobo doesn't have absorption powers, he's a psycho brick of roughly Kryptonian class strength and durability who enjoys favored status by his creator, so that he can dish the beatdown even when it makes no real sense. When written by others he is not so mighty, such as having his clock cleaned by Captain Marvel or the painfully stupid defeat by Wolverine he suffered off panel due to reader votes on the way the fight was to go.

 

He does have a truckload of willpower so he would be able to directly contest G'nort's power-ring effects such as when he encountered the JLI in the late 80's.

Re: What Are My Disadvantages & Powers ?

So, he's some sort of public servant?

Re: Mental Defense

What do you call Migraines and Mental Exhaustion?

In short? Painful. I wouldn't use Mental Defense vs them, though. Those are best resisted with Resistance, IMO.

Re: Mental Defense

Seems inconsistent to me. Am I overlooking something here?

Yes. PD and Ed are intrinsic to any character. They represent your resistance against the world itself. The world doesn't normally produce any mental-based damage but without the PD you get from an 8-10 Str, you take Body from ANY impact that generates damage such as falls and punches by human beings. Remember, without this 2 PD two normals will automatically do Stun & Body to each other with their 1 1/2 - 2d6 damage swings. This means a 5 Str guy can do a Body per punch to people. Makes people too easily damaged.

Re: Naming Help

How about Icarus? Seriously, I'm not just riffing on the Empyreans here. There was a reasonably enjoyable independent comic I read years ago with the main character having chosen Icarus as his identity. It was sort of a first super in the world thing. Regardless, he was strong, bulletproof and could fly. He was also tough enough to fly through a building, hence, flying brick. Pity I only ever found the one issue.

Re: thisi s cool the cost of being batman

im gonna gte me a costume an fight crime too

 

now i just need you guys to send me enough money

 

http://www.forbes.com/home/digitalentertainment/2005/06/20/batman-movies-superheroes-cx_de_0620batman.html?partner=msnbc

Swell, so if we come up with 30 grand, you'll promise to out and get shot at by psychotic clowns?

Re: Help with Murphy's Curse character

Based on the description of Sticky in the Power Advantage section, I'm not sure it would work here.

Can you give me an example of it working in this situation?

I wouldn't go with the sticky advantage. Simply have the transformation be to someone with the unluck curse and a no conscious control transform of his own.