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Re: Gadgeteer/Martial Artist vs the Big Boyz/Gurlz No problem. I dont think Batman types should be superior, but equal. But with this concept it take some creativity in the SFX and explanation. IMHO they equal in effectiveness in comics.

Re: Gadgeteer/Martial Artist vs the Big Boyz/Gurlz I think in most worlds Supes, thor, and Green Lantern are "allowed" to beat a Batman type. But I think it is exciting to think of a normal standing his ground vs a meta human. But again all the pc's in this game are built as 350 pnts only the concept is different. And were are simulating comics. In the "real world there are no Supes, Thor or Green Lantern...

Re: Ultimate Champions: How would you do it? I agree. Introduced slowly into a story these issues bring realism. Of course it could be done in a crass manner, but I really like for instance the Pym/Wasp in The Ultimates. Ultimizing the Champs U would take introducing real world, not so pretty issues.

Re: Gadgeteer/Martial Artist vs the Big Boyz/Gurlz Thanx SS! Those are great suggestions. I was hoping for some SFX stuff, describing unique gadgets specifically. And maybe some geeky tales of how a PC took a meta-human down a notch.

Re: I Can't Believe He Played That! One player who was new to Champs wanted to play a character he dubbed the Morphic Eye, a knife throwing "hot chick" who could turn invisible and morph into a... drum roll please... puppy!

I was reading the thread "Reconsiling Manga and Batman" and as I am playing a Batman-esque character in a champs campaign, I thought I would ask what kinda of Martial Arts/Gadgets have you used in the past to make this Archetype able to combat other Archetypes?

Re: Does Champions encourgage conformity? For a long time I thought Disad-like rules were an invitation to be a munchkin. But now sometimes when I have a basic Char concept in mind, I start with the disads and it inspires me to flesh out the characters personality and to make him more than a stat block. My opinion now is that this helps creativity and role play. Most players that ive met that dont like disads are usually afraid of having faults with their character, possibly due to a murderous gm in their past.

Re: All the superhero PCs I've ever played Wow! If ya could include NPC's Ive ran when GMing this would look better. V&V Champion- A lame Brick/armoured/Magic Axe weilding Superhero. Hey, I was a 13 yr old AD&D Munchkin at the time. Marvel TSR RPG Played the Thing for awhile. Champions 4ed Nightswan- A superherioc ninja MA type. Powers came from a mystic Katana. Champions 5ed The Wraith- A Batman/Daredevil ripoff with a tech version of a Spwan-like cape.

Re: I love The Ultimates I dig the Ult lines too. I was suprised because when I first heard about it, I thought it would suck too no end. But I love the Spidey, X-men, Ultimates, and the FF is pretty good too. Good thing because Jeff Loeb was Subconsiously stealing me away to DC!

Re: Reconciling Manga & Batman So to me those characters are more than human. Their skill is super human. In comics there are not usually considered super human because they dont have eyebeams or super STR or whatever. But they do dodge bullets, thats superhuman to me. Sure DD couldnt take down the Hulk but a 350 point brick, I think he could. Just my opinion but I dont think Im even close to the majority. To each his/her own. But IMHO batman/DD/Cap/Green Arrow are not realistic Characters. Comics Books are not realistic and neither are RPG's. What a human can accomplish with intense training is superhuman in the Marvel and DC universes. Everyone's original Game world of course can be different but I like emulate Marvel and DC. I think I would allow a anime themed PC in game without a problem...

Re: Reconciling Manga & Batman I think that in comics there are heroes who have no real superpowers but the cunning and years of training allow them to whoop on Superpowered characters. I play a Batman-like character and his Off Strike totals to 12d6, but I would never have him kicking tanks. But he can kick Superdewd and say "skin as hard as steel but I can still find his solar plexis" thats good enough for me in a comic RPG. Id be pretty bummed if that wasnt good enough for my GM.

Re: Reconciling Manga & Batman I think you stated your own problem. You either have to seperate the genres or allow the human MA's to beef up their Damage Classes. Point caps balance the game and its only fair that its the same for all archetypes. I love real Martial Arts and Comics, Anime and Cinema are nothing like real fighting. But even in real life practicing chikung takes alot of training time from training speed power and timing. In my mind thats what Batman-types would focus on.(have more points to spend on) Goku throws a 12d6 fireball Batman throw a 12d6 exploding batarang. Works fine. You have to suspend alot of disbeleif to even read comics.

I had a scenario come up in a Champs game that I was curious about. A flying hero gets hit with an EB and suffers knockback. Will call him FH. FH doesnt have Breakfall so it is ruled that he has to right himself in the air on his next action for a 1/2 phase. Daredevil Clone (will call him DC) throws a billy club at FH hoping to gain an advantage of his "unrighted" state. FH says that he wants to right himself and abort to dodge. Can FH abort and do both these things before DC can hit him?

I had a scenario come up in a Champs game that I was curious about. A flying hero gets hit with an EB and suffers knockback. Will call him FH. FH doesnt have Breakfall so it is ruled that he has to right himself in the air on his next action for a 1/2 phase. Daredevil Clone (will call him DC) throws a billy club at FH hoping to gain an advantage of his "unrighted" state. FH says that he wants to right himself and abort to dodge. Can FH abort and do both these things before DC can hit him?

Re: Champions Art Hmm I hadnt thought of that I guess thats a good question. What Im hoping for is to get colorized pics of Champions Universe characters so that I can plug them into Hero Designer and have something to say "See guys this is what Doctor Destoyer looks like. Im just to lazy to scan and try it myself. Its just a bummer that I bought the CKC plug in for HD and there is no artwork in it. Still a GREAT deal mind you. But Id like some artwork. Id pay for it if Hero sold it...

I have noticed the kewl side art on this web site and was wondering if anyone had done there own colorization of the art in Champions books. Im looking for images to share with the PC's in my campaign.

Sorry if Someone answered this already but Im a little stumped in my Champions game. I have a character that would like to use his TK to grab another character and throw him/her into another character. Though this seemed simple at first I found myself with a lot of questions. What maneuvers are required? Grab and Martial throw? When, if at all, would the opponent be able to resist the grab? Would the thrown character work like an object on the STR table as far as distance thrown? How would you calculate damage for the thrown character and the character he/she was thrown into? Can the attacker Move, Grab and throw in the same phase? Thanks for your time and all the great Hero products!

Re: Why does Nighthawk always get depicted getting the crap kicked out of him? Hey I actually like Nighthawk and have thought about actually playing him someday. Id modify him a bit and I agree that scarring isnt tragic enough for his origin but he works as a Batman rip and he looks damn kewl an the cover of G&G.

Im getting ready to make my next Hero purchase and was wondering what the opinion of G&G. Its sounds useful for my Champs game but I have the Until Superpower Data Base and love it. What makes G&G more than just the SPDB with the Focus Limitation?

Re: Re: How about... DOH! :p

How about... The Case for George W....

Hmm... Metropolis and Gotham I like the Idea of Millenium City and Hudson being like Metropilis and Gotham. Id throw money in that direction. But it seems like that could be accomplished in a book similar to Millenium City with the addition of a section on running a low powered gritty supers game. But I never played the original DC...

I have a question about a Zen Riflery manuever in the UMA pg 74. Im assuming that the Ranged Disarm's SE is shooting a weapon out of someones hand. The DMG/Effect is Disarm. +15 STR to roll. On an unarmed Disarm it would add to the Characters STR, but If you are shooting a firearm what would you add the +15 to?

Me Too! Id love to have color artwork for All the characters in the Champs Universe. Id pay for it too!

Both. I guess I was a little vague. My primary concern is helping them with Charector Gen, both mechanically and creatively. But I like the setting ideas as well.