Hermit Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 All this talk of Iron Age heroes against Silver and Bronze ones recently (Avengers vs. Authority, etc) had me thinking of an old thread I put up.... http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6452 Now, I'm curious. While obviously some characters are already inspired or influenced by others... if you mixed the Ages up on some classic comic characters, what do you think they'd be like? What would a Silver Age (or Golden) Authority be like? What would a transformation to the Iron Age do the JL? The Avengers( Oh, wait, they become the Ultimates). How about a silver age Spawn and Iron Age Spider-Man? Thoughts?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakboy6117 Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Silver age authority Swift regains her Buddhist code versus killing, as does everyone else. The doctor becomes massively more dangerous because he no longer has his narcotics addictions but loses some of his power as he has to be nice about things (no more giving soldiers breasts) he also gains a proper energy blast not just transformations. Jack loses the ability to make buildings fall and gas mains collapse but regains his window viewing supers strength and speed de-solidification and possibly is able to rebuild buildings which is why golden age fights can smash the city and it will be fine by teatime Jenny sparks quits smoking, swearing and sleeping around and doesn't And the engineer well she doesn’t change either except she no longer creates huge machine guns for arms she now has proper stunning energy cannons that won't hurt even the weakest mooch but will blow a hole in the side of a building should the need arise. Midnighter and Apollo become dedicated bachelors and ladies men and probably acquire some teenage sidekicks in skimpy brightly coloured outfits. Oh and midnighter now only fighst with his staff and non lethal weapons Oh and they stop trying to remake the world in there image on there terms and back up the status quo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexus Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Now this is a cool thread. I hope someone tackles a Golden Age Authority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexus Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Originally posted by freakboy6117 Silver age authority Jenny sparks quits smoking, swearing and sleeping around and doesn't Doesn't what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Gnome Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Originally posted by nexus Doesn't what? Smell like an ashtray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted January 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Originally posted by nexus Now this is a cool thread. I hope someone tackles a Golden Age Authority. I leave that to bigger Authority fans than I, but Jenny Sparks playing up herself as more of a Patriot for the UK even maybe changing her name might be a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckg Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Heh. Golden Age Jenny? That reminds me tangentially of a guy I know who was going to run a Golden Age crossover tournament event involving 350 point supers. Scenario -- the "War of the Worlds". Their characters are all present at the crash site for one reason or another, and they're all Golden Age supers or adventurers... Called in by the US government to investigate the phenomenon, as a leading scientific authority -- Dr. Clark Savage, Jr. First reporter on the scene-- Clark Kent, representing the "Daily Planet". (/early/ Golden Age version... the one who didn't even fly, just jumped) Representing the North American intelligence community -- this short grouchy Canadian guy called 'Logan'. (From his pre-WWII service...) Just Happened To Be Passing Through Town At The Time While Chasing Somebody Else -- the Shadow. And showing up at the last instant to represent that secret faction of government which dealt with outer-space phenomena at the time -- Captain Jennifer Sparks, British Space Authority (at her early 1930's powerlevel) *sigh* I wish I'd been there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted January 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Originally posted by Chuckg And showing up at the last instant to represent that secret faction of government which dealt with outer-space phenomena at the time -- Captain Jennifer Sparks, British Space Authority (at her early 1930's powerlevel) *S* Love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug McCrae Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 For the Silver Age Authority, the proportion of women would go down a bit. The Engineer would certainly have to be male - chicks couldn't be scientists back then (though they were allowed to be magicians - Zatanna). Also girls were hardly ever allowed to be powerful (admittedly Supergirl is an exception). There is an interesting parallel between Jenny Sparks and Lightning Lass of the LSH. The powers that be decided girls couldn't have violent attacks so Lightning Lass became Light Lass with the useless ability to make things super light-weight. Most of the female LSH have similarly weak, feminine capabilities. There was also zero internationalism back then. International teams came in with the new X-Men, so Chen couldn't be oriental and Jenny Sparks couldn't be British. However there were a lot more aliens. Obviously homosexuality, guns, swearing, drugs and ripping people's heads off are right out. The ass rapings would have to come right down too, which is not entirely a bad thing. The Doctor would simply become Dr. Strange, which is what he is anyway. Swift becomes Silver Swift. She's now white, loses the claws and probably the body morphing. Flight is her only power - that's sufficiently girly. She has to cover up her bare midriff and grow her hair long. The Midnighter becomes the Midnight Manhunter, a detective with a mutant computer-like mind, superhuman strength and reflexes (also mutations). There is a whole 'Midnight' family including Midnight Woman and the Midnight Mite Apollo stays as he is, apart from ditching the Midnight Manhunter and getting a girlfriend. Jack Hawksmoor becomes Johnny Metropolis, an earthman granted powers by benevolent Oan-like aliens and charged with the job of protecting Earth's cities. The Engineer becomes Iron Man, her closest SA analogue. Jenny Sparks started out as Electro-Lass but her powers changed to stretching in a weird accident and she became Elasti-Lass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted January 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Justice League as Iron would probably resemble in some ways the "A better world" episode of the animated series. However, to alter it even more... I turn on the "Imagizer/Ironization process" and fire full throttle... Iron Age Superman- Similar story, though Krypton was a facist and oppressive Oligarchy hated by half it's galaxy before it's own destruction (Which may have been merely a natural catostrophy, or might have been sabatoge from an oppressed race). A young Kal El was sent to remote earth, electronically educated not only in basic scienes, but a collection of rhetoric gloryfing the belief systems of his now lost world. Prematurely grown at a faster rate, his first act with his super powers was to protect the psychologically disturbed Martha Kent from her even more off kilter and abusive drunken sot of a husband Johnathan. For now, he acts as protector to the Earth in the hope the Terrans will see his superiority over their own failed legal systems and eventually have a global demand for him to take his rightful place, as ruler. Iron Age Wonder Woman aka "Amazonia"- Thermascarya is the last refuge of the Amazons, hunted by Man's world, they were offered safety by Aries here. They served him loyally and he used them as shock troops in whatever plots he had. One princess of the Amazon blashemously tried to sever the ties between her people and the 'male' god, and for this, was exiled. Not before she stole certain artifacts of power and went to Man's world. Diana is a vigilante focusing in the protection of women, and has killed by now dozens of rapists. She has various lovers (women of course) across the country as she travels coast to coast and openly attends rallies demanding power for Womynkind. She is a member of the League because she sees it as useful, and she wants to make sure that if Superman ever does take over, she can make demands on behalf of the universal sisterhood. Iron Age Batman aka "The Bat"- Bruce Wayne owns you. Or he owns someone you care about, and if you don't care about anyone, he'll find a way to have leverage yet. Scarred by a tramatic incident as a boy, Bruce dedicated himself to never being helpless again. Physically, mentally, and socially he must be dominaint. When the law proved too limiting, he took on the mantle of "The Bat" so he could take it into his own hands. Crushing illegal activity that was trying to bypass avenues that lead monies to his table, the Bat's first act was to smash the smuggling rings of Gotham. Using his resources to spin his vigilante acts into urban legend and popularizing those actions as 'someone finally doing the right thing' he's very controversial in his masked identity. The Bat invests heavily in the League both as a means for weapon testing, and a way to insure that he will be indespensible should Superman succeed. He will make sure he's the "Power behind the Throne". Iron Age Aquaman- It's not easy being a freak. Arthur Curry is recipeint of the metagene gone terribly terribly wrong. Gills and webbed digits adorn his pale body. Driven away from his coastal home in Maine when he was nearly killed by some locals... he found solace in the sea. Over the years his powers went beyond breathing water, and he discovered he could control aquatic life telepathically. The only problem? He was so damn lonely. Even conversation with dolphins can get dull. Then he stumbled onto a scene where authorities were in battle with some whack job in New York Harbor. When said whack job decided Arthur 'must' be a hero, he attacked him. Arthur defended himself, and to his surprise, by this time his powers had grown very strong indeed. The fight ended near the UN, and when the cameras started rolling... Arthur at first didn't know what to say. When the world Atlantis was used, he.. pounced on it. Claiming to be a King... he was shocked with the morons bought it! Suddenly, everything is going his way, He has a seat on the UN to represent his fictional nation, women sleep with him despite his freakishness, and he's conned millions out of dollars out of governments. Life is good for the King of a land that probably never was. Damn the guilt that drove him to try something real for once. He's part of the League hoping to do some good for real, and desperately afraid "The Bat" or someone else knows he's a hoax. Iron Age Martian Manhunter aka "It".- It hovers. It waits. It is a purely psychic energy being that can 'appear' in the minds of it's victims or allies in any form it wants. Sure, it's not really there, but that doesn't stop it from killing them. It was the last living thing on mars. It also covertly drains the psychic force from sentient beings, and occaisionally must kill to feed. Still, It rationalizes, the humans need it, and It has saved millions, surely the loss of a human a week is worth that? It certainly thinks so. Iron Age Green Lantern- Grounded when he came up positive for drug use, frustrated young pilot Hal Rayner went rock climbing to burn off some steam. When he saw a UFO of all things crashing, he found himself the only man around in a scene straight out of Xfiles. The alien was grotesque, smelled bad, and bubbled words like 'Abin lintern' and such. Next to him was a glowing green device. Sitting before that device gave Hal a rush no drug could compete with. The alien babbled more, but Hal was lost in the buzz of the glow. That's when the other Alien came in, weapons pointed, and demanding the "Lantern" . Like a junkie being asked to give up his stash, Hal resisted, and incredible green energy poured out of him smashing into the new intruder. He surprised the guy so much he drove him off. Hal turned to tend Abin... since he was finally in control of the 'high'. Over the next few days, Abin managed to communicate that he was an officer in some sort of intergalatic corps, and that they protected the galaxy. Cool. he helped Abin prepare to go. Then Abin said he needed the device back. It wasn't safe for humans, and had addictive properties. Twitching, Hal had no choice but to agree. Abin entered his last sleep cycle before leaving, and never woke up. Unable to take the withdrawl pains any longer, Hal killed him in his sleep. Now Hal is a super hero, he uses his powers to save Earth. He feels... bad about what he did to Abin, really, but... the alien clearly didn't understand, Hal needs the lantern. Iron Age Flash- Alana West is the Flash, she's called the "Fastest Woman Alive" and it's not just for her speed. There aren't too many people on the team she hasn't slept with. Somedays it seems like there aren't too many off it either. Alana's own powers are her worst enemy. The same enzymes and hormones that flow super charged through her blood and grant her powers curse her with exteme mood swings of amourous behavior or violence. She doesn't remember how she got them exactly, she was working at Wayne Tech... she remembers electric shocks and chemicals. Maybe she was hit by lightning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckg Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 May I quote this on another message board I frequent, with attribution? This is so good it's scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted January 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Originally posted by Chuckg May I quote this on another message board I frequent, with attribution? This is so good it's scary. As far as I'm concerned? Sure. I imagine JL fans everywhere will scream in anquish at the violation of their beloved characters... couldn't blame them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckg Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 I tried doing an "Earth 2" style version of the JLA once -- but they were supposed to be the /villains/, not the heroes. A 'Backworlds' type scenario. Other contributors to the thread rapidly came up with some really nice ideas on how to 'Backworld' the DCU /villiains/, as well. Link to Google archive of NG thread is... http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl1073463784d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&selm=7c25bn%24d8p%241%40nnrp1.dejanews.com note -- I wrote this in 1999. (first post, hit 'view thread' for the rest) (edit -- this is not the forum to which I quoted you -- I'm not on racdu anymore, haven't been for a long while. I quoted you over on the Rumbles board of CBR.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakboy6117 Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 oops doesnt turn her opponants into piles of smoldering ashes or kick them in the crotch for that matter(probably the shin thats ladylike). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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