GrimJesta Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Hey, quick question: What does it mean when it says that wings are "foulable" as a disadvantage? Not only what does it mean, but if applicable, hpw does it affect the power? -=Grim=- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kintara Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Is there a frame of reference for the inquiry? I can't think of why that would be a limitation, and not explained in the text of the specific power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Hiemforth Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Assuming you're talking about a Limitation (as opposed to a Disadvantage), some older books refer to "foulable wings" or some such as a Limitation. It's the same thing as Restrainable from 5E. Its description says how it limits the character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimJesta Posted February 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 I dont play 5th, so I still dont know what Restrainable means. But yea, my bad, I meant limitation. I posted that entirely too late at night for coherent writing. But the only Hero books I have for 4th is the BBB, the regular Hero book w/o the Champions stuff (I like having two of every core book) and the Fantasy Hero stuff. And it never says what Foulable means, only that its a -1 lim. ARGH! -=Grim=- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Most of the time that I've seen "Foulable" in the 4E and earlier books, it's rated as -1/2, but there could certainly be some variation. "Restrainable" is -1/2 in 5E, and that's essentially the same thing. Anyway, what it means is that the source of the Power requires free movement of a body part or device in order to function, and if it's immobilized by a Grab or Entangle the Power can't be used. In the case of Flight defined as wings for example, if someone can seize the wings or throw a net over them so that they can't flap, the character can no longer fly. Another example is a character who can project blasts of energy from his hands, but has to have them free to do this - if his hands are pinned he can't fire until he can free them. There is some similarity between this Limitation and Gestures, but Gestures has more variations and implies some degree of unusualness in what a character is doing that would be noted by an observer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhamin Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 I also usually rule that things like tar would also prevent the use of foulable/restrainable powers. Even though you are not actually pinned, the power will be useless until you can wipe all the goo off. I've seen flintlock pistols bought this way to reflect how much more vulnerable they were to the environment than modern semi-automatics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugfromthearth Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 specifically a power has an OAF limitation worth -1 if a grab maneuver in combat can take the item away. for some things such as wings a grab maneuver can prevent the power from being used but not actually take the item away. This is "restrainable" -1/2 so "restrainable" means "obvious accessible but not take-awayable focus" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolith Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Just to add my voice to everyone else's, Angel's Flight (due to his wings) is Foulable/Restrainable. If you grab Angel's wings he cannot fly away. Superman's Flight, without the Limitation, means that he can fly up even if someone is holding him. His Flight is not "foulable" in any fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law Dog Posted February 2, 2004 Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 Foulable is also much broader than restrainable. High Winds, enclosed spaces and other factors may make foulable wings unusable. I'd add to that if they were to take BODY, they are out of commission until they heal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted February 2, 2004 Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 Law Dog, that's a logical extrapolation, but to my knowledge those other drawbacks were never spelled out in any of the books where "Foulable" was used. Problems with high winds and enclosed spaces might even justify a further Limitation if those circumstances occurred often enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimJesta Posted February 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 Man, you guys all rawk. Thanks a ton. I have clarity now... -=Grim=- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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