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Along these lines, everyone, and I mean everyone, should come out of college knowing how to program a computer. This can be everything from coding in C to being proficient in database programing to knowing how to work with geographical information services (GIS).

No argument here.

 

I don’t mean that we should teach kids philosophy the way they would encounter it in college. Adolescents don’t need to dive into dissertations on Plato’s theory of forms or Kant’s categorical imperative. (That kind of study is valuable, too, and should be included in secondary education somewhere, but that’s an argument for another day.)

That's good, because that is the thing that more or less everyone other than philosophy majors consider to be nothing but concentrated brain death and leads down a number of rhetorical ratholes that end up at "no one but philosophers knows anything" and the narcissistic conclusion that the Greeks were the ultimate in enlightenment, even if they didn't know how to build or understand the need for sanitary sewer systems.

 

If we fail to turn second-graders into Socrates, our kids may end up becoming expert at making a living, but they will be incompetent at creating a civil society.

Oh really? We want to turn all elementary school children into people so politically and socially abusive that the rest of the population forces them to drink hemlock? This is the worst sort of hyperbole, and it's the kind of tripe that always shows up in the incessant "education should devote more time to MY discipline!!!one!!" polemics that arise almost continuously from various corners in academia.

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That's good, because that is the thing that more or less everyone other than philosophy majors consider to be nothing but concentrated brain death and leads down a number of rhetorical ratholes that end up at "no one but philosophers knows anything" and the narcissistic conclusion that the Greeks were the ultimate in enlightenment, even if they didn't know how to build or understand the need for sanitary sewer systems.

 

 

Oh really? We want to turn all elementary school children into people so politically and socially abusive that the rest of the population forces them to drink hemlock? This is the worst sort of hyperbole, and it's the kind of tripe that always shows up in the incessant "education should devote more time to MY discipline!!!one!!" polemics that arise almost continuously from various corners in academia.

 

Different priorities between Greeks and Romans. The Romans perfected Empire, with its roads, aqueducts, sanitation, vast public baths. The Greeks found it impossible to think bigger than the polis, which is a criticism against Aristotle's Politics treatise. 

 

Also the Athenians sentenced Socrates to death in a painless manner. The Roman's crucified their enemies, then left their bodies to rot as an example for the rest. An enemy would have preferred the Greek Way as it involved no suffering. Cheers. ( :D )

 

Kids by and large have a sense of wonder, Socrates recognised that as the beginnings of acquiring wisdom. Some of that wonder is no doubt aimed at the stars on a night sky and have given kids the desire to become astronomers.

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