CrosshairCollie Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Planning way ahead for any Fantasy Hero gaming I do (if I ever find the book for sale anywhere ...). I intend to show that anything D&D does, FH can do and probably better. Most of the Feats have been going along fine, until this one little snag. The Cleave feat, which I can't figure out how to do. Basically, what Cleave lets you do is: If you hit a target and drop it, you can immediately get a 'follow-through' attack on anything you can reach. So, if you're up against two trolls and you drop one of them, you can immediately attack the second one (and then, if you have multiple attacks, you can keep going). You don't have to do all the damage in one shot; you just need to land the killing/knockout blow. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Shrike Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Re: Conversion: the Cleave Feat There is an exact conversion of this in Fantasy HERO in the Talents section. Followthru Attack IIRC. It's just a Naked Trigger applied to HKA's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netzilla Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Re: Conversion: the Cleave Feat Even though it sounds like you've already done a fair chunk of the work already, you might want to know that the FH Talents sections has Hero System equivalents to quite a few D&D3.x feats. It's pretty cool, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireg0lem Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Re: Conversion: the Cleave Feat Try this: Naked Power Advantages: Area of Effect: Radius (+1), Selective (+1/4); Only to Allow Successive Attacks When Original Target Is Knocked Out (-1.5), No Range (-1/2), Only Targets Within Reach of Current Weapon (-1/2). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshairCollie Posted September 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Re: Conversion: the Cleave Feat Even though it sounds like you've already done a fair chunk of the work already' date=' you might want to know that the FH Talents sections has Hero System equivalents to quite a few D&D3.x feats. It's pretty cool, really.[/quote'] Figures. Now, if only I could FIND THE BLASTED BOOK FOR SALE ANYWHERE! And if only my wife didn't distrust online shopping ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Re: Conversion: the Cleave Feat Where in Missouri do you live? The "Hero Retailers" link at the top of the page shows two brick-and-mortar stores carrying Hero products, one in Washington, the other in Columbia. Also, if online credit-card use is an issue, it might help you to know that the Hero Games Online Store will also take checks and money orders. If you enter the store page you'll find a FAQ link which explains how to do that. I hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarragon Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Re: Conversion: the Cleave Feat Consider Cleave (and Great Cleave) are metagame concepts that allow powerful characters to defeat large numbers of weaker enemies faster. By that interpretation sweep is a good the match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shem_whistler Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Re: Conversion: the Cleave Feat Figures. Now, if only I could FIND THE BLASTED BOOK FOR SALE ANYWHERE! And if only my wife didn't distrust online shopping ... I don't know if it is the same in the US as the UK, but my local book shop (Ottaka's) stocks the core D20 books, and as long as you can provide them with the ISBN number of the book they should be able to order it in for you, it saves trying to hunt down a genre specific shop. Hope that helps. Shem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Re: Conversion: the Cleave Feat Borders, Barnes & Noble or Hastings should be able to order it for you. If you're in the KC area, there's a shop in Overland Park listed, as well. Follow-through attack seems like what you're looking for. It's in the book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuSoardGraphite Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Re: Conversion: the Cleave Feat Try this: Cleave: HKA: 1D6+1K (20) Trigger (+1/4) 25Act. --OAF (-1) X2 End(-1/2) Gestures (-1/4) Real: 9pts With this Talent, the character sets up a follow-through attack by practicing a series of Katas that simulates fighting multiple opponents. After practicing the Kata a number of times, the character then gains the ability to reflexively perform this maneuver in combat. The Kata must be practiced daily so that the character does not become complacent. Notes: The Trigger is activated whenever an opponent the character is facing is killed with one of his normal maneuvers (In other words, Cleave cannot trigger another Cleave event). This includes Sweep maneuvers. Many enemies can be wounded/killed in this manner in a single phase! (appropriate for many Sword & Sorcery campaigns) The OAF if obviously a weapon. Drop this limitation if the "Cleave" is performed barehanded. The X2 End limitation requires a bit of explaination and a special consideration that is not normally used with Triggered Powers. 1/2 of the Endurance is spent when the Trigger is set up and the second half of the Endurance is spent when the Trigger is set off. (All together should add up to X2End). Why? Think about it. Performing a Kata is tiring, and actually performing the attack should cost End as well, thus the reason for splitting it. This may not seem particularly limiting to many Gm's in which case simply reduce the limitation from -1/2 to -1/4. The Gestures represent performing the Kata of course, and are performed during the setup phase of the power. The reason why I believe the Gestures limitation applies is because if someone were prevented from performing the Kata (being tied up, or paralyzed or some such) then the Trigger can not be set and the power is foiled. Take into consideration that the 1/2 phase for the Cleave attack is performed during the setup phase....the actual Cleave attack during combat is considered a 0 Phase action, as per the rules in the text of the Trigger advantage. How's that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CourtFool Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Re: Conversion: the Cleave Feat Consider Cleave (and Great Cleave) are metagame concepts that allow powerful characters to defeat large numbers of weaker enemies faster. By that interpretation sweep is a good the match. I have to agree. Sweep is far more elegant than Cleave. It is also more versitile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshairCollie Posted October 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 Re: Conversion: the Cleave Feat Borders' date=' Barnes & Noble or Hastings should be able to order it for you. If you're in the KC area, there's a shop in Overland Park listed, as well. Follow-through attack seems like what you're looking for. It's in the book.[/quote'] (Also responding to Lord Liaden) I'm in Kirksville, pretty much the very Northeast Corner. I have a Hastings (in fact, my wife works there), but we can't order anything from HERO games (if only we could ... she gets such a kickass discount!), we've tried. And the shop in Columbia has a fairly small HERO section, so ... *sigh* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Shrike Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Re: Conversion: the Cleave Feat (Also responding to Lord Liaden) I'm in Kirksville, pretty much the very Northeast Corner. I have a Hastings (in fact, my wife works there), but we can't order anything from HERO games (if only we could ... she gets such a kickass discount!), we've tried. And the shop in Columbia has a fairly small HERO section, so ... *sigh* Cant order HERO books? I wont stand for that! Tell the person in charge of ordering that they are fired! Ed "Killer Shrike" Hastings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshairCollie Posted October 15, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Re: Conversion: the Cleave Feat Cant order HERO books? I wont stand for that! Tell the person in charge of ordering that they are fired! Ed "Killer Shrike" Hastings I kinda wish I could ... because my wife was gunning for that person's job a couple of months ago and got shafted out of it. She was hella pissed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.