AmadanNaBriona Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Re: Character: Sam Vimes OK, heres a question. How to model Morphic Resonance in HERO terms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddHat Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Re: Character: Sam Vimes OK, heres a question. How to model Morphic Resonance in HERO terms? Mostly it's just an in-story/in-game explanation for why souls look like the body they inhabited, how Transformation Attacks work and why you turn back into your original form when they wear off or get dispelled, and why Nanny Og's player got to spend some XP and re-write her follower Greebo with Multiform and and Accidental Change. If you really want to take the "Change Once, Change Back to that Form Again More Easily" rule as a mechanic rather than just color text, I'd make a house rule that objects in Discworld that have been transformed successfully once will have, for a GM determined time afterwards, a 2* vulnerability to transformation attacks that shunt the target into the same form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Re: Character: Sam Vimes Obviously, we would need benchmarks for what is considered "the best". Lets explore the Primary Characteristics in terms of what character or race epitomizes them {snip} COM - Elves? Actually, that's only an illusion (MI or Images isn't clear: viz. Lords and Ladies). Also, they have a Psych Lim, "Short Tempered" (one of the original duology has a character saying (as best I can remember) "You wouldn't call 'em short-tempered. Not if you didn't want to carry your teeth home in your hat, you wouldn't") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Re: Character: Sam Vimes Strangely enough - morphic resonance doesn't apply to werewolves. Angua is quite attractive - yet her wolf form is described as a bit manky (I believe). At least not as attractive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Re: Character: Sam Vimes No, I must disagree on the mankiness of Angua's wolf-form. She has been described as looking as a pedigree hunting dog -- see Jingo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Re: Character: Sam Vimes Strangely enough - morphic resonance doesn't apply to werewolves. Angua is quite attractive - yet her wolf form is described as a bit manky (I believe). At least not as attractive. Of course it does. It's just that a werewolf has two seperate morphic resonance states. Lucius Alexander And the exceptionally symmetrical palindromedary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddHat Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Re: Character: Sam Vimes No' date=' I must disagree on the mankiness of Angua's wolf-form. She has been described as looking as a pedigree hunting dog -- see [i']Jingo![/i] Angua's wolf form has always been described as looking like a sleek, gorgeous, high class wolfhound. She used that pedigreed look to infiltrate the Assassins guild in her first appearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Re: Character: Sam Vimes Yay! A second opinion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Re: Character: Sam Vimes Reading 'Men at Arms' right now. L.Marcus and Oddhat are right. MaA also contains one of my favorite exchanges. Carrot and Doctor Whiteface. "Then I am afraid I shall, with extreme reluctance, be forced to carry out the order I was given just before entering." classic exchange I can't help but laugh so hard I cry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmadanNaBriona Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Re: Character: Sam Vimes Mostly it's just an in-story/in-game explanation for why souls look like the body they inhabited, how Transformation Attacks work and why you turn back into your original form when they wear off or get dispelled, and why Nanny Og's player got to spend some XP and re-write her follower Greebo with Multiform and and Accidental Change. If you really want to take the "Change Once, Change Back to that Form Again More Easily" rule as a mechanic rather than just color text, I'd make a house rule that objects in Discworld that have been transformed successfully once will have, for a GM determined time afterwards, a 2* vulnerability to transformation attacks that shunt the target into the same form. Yeah, my first thought was "Just SFX" too, but then I pondered a bit more and wasn't so sure. Having a strong Morphic Feild is certainly a good justification for Power Defence in the setting (one of the better SFX examples of PowDef in fiction, IMHO). There might be a classy way to model it by adding the "opposable" modifier to RSR. I'm not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Re: Character: Sam Vimes Maybe I was just thinking of how she thought of herself. It has been a while since I read them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted January 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Re: Character: Sam Vimes You could be remembering the recent scenes in Thud, where she gets a bit manky in the tunnels. Keith "great scene" Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"V" Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Re: Character: Sam Vimes Do you mean the scene with Sally the Vampire? Paraphrasing: "We're naked, we're squaring up to fight, and we're covered in mud. We're only missing one thing... a paying audience, we could make a fortune." Chuckle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Re: Character: Sam Vimes I hope he does more stories with Sally. It'd be nice to have a secret-agent/james bondian kind of story for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted January 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Re: Character: Sam Vimes Do you mean the scene with Sally the Vampire? Paraphrasing: "We're naked, we're squaring up to fight, and we're covered in mud. We're only missing one thing... a paying audience, we could make a fortune." Chuckle. That's the one. I was just too lazy to go look it up. Keith "Fetch me another soda while your at it, V." Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"V" Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Re: Character: Sam Vimes Keith "Fetch me another soda while your at it, V." Curtis Why certainly Mr Curtis, nothing would give me greater pleasure. (Soda means soft drink in English right? I don't want to agree to anything immoral by accident) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Re: Character: Sam Vimes . . . Caustic soda for the drains, soda pop for people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"V" Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Re: Character: Sam Vimes >grins< I just like to be clear when addressing the transatlantic audience. Oh how my mind boggled when I heard an American friend tell me how he used to enjoy wearing suspenders but discovered they weren't acceptable in his workplace. Well naturally, thinks I, but said nothing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Re: Character: Sam Vimes *hears Lumberjack Song in head* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ternaugh Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Re: Character: Sam Vimes >grins< I just like to be clear when addressing the transatlantic audience. Oh how my mind boggled when I heard an American friend tell me how he used to enjoy wearing suspenders but discovered they weren't acceptable in his workplace. Well naturally, thinks I, but said nothing... Which leads to a joking DND conversion in an early FH game: Braces of Defense: These magically-enchanted devices not only improve your armor (through Force Field), but they also help to keep up your trousers. JoeG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Re: Character: Sam Vimes >grins< I just like to be clear when addressing the transatlantic audience. Oh how my mind boggled when I heard an American friend tell me how he used to enjoy wearing suspenders but discovered they weren't acceptable in his workplace. Well naturally, thinks I, but said nothing... Okay, I'll bite what do suspenders refer to across the pond? If you have to, PM me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmadanNaBriona Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Re: Character: Sam Vimes Okay, I'll bite what do suspenders refer to across the pond? If you have to, PM me. They suspend thigh high stockings. We'd call 'em a garter belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Re: Character: Sam Vimes As apposed to a garter, for socks for men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Re: Character: Sam Vimes k. That would have been my first guess actually, but I've learned not to assume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Re: Character: Sam Vimes They suspend thigh high stockings. We'd call 'em a garter belt. Are you sure you don't mean a garter? A garter belt goes around the waist and has elastic bands that stretch down and clip to the tops of the stockings. Or that's what I thought? Lucius Alexander The palindromedary asks: Lucius, are you trying to tell an expert what's what again? The palindromedary also asks: What was this thread supposed to be about again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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