Gent Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 I was recently working on a character who had a multipower defined as a bow and gimmick arrows. It has five slots. Would 3-point CSLs bought for "All Bows" apply to it, or would it require 5-point CSLs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesama Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 Re: Weapon Multipowers and CSLs 5th or 6th edition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bodkins Odds Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Re: Weapon Multipowers and CSLs Hmm... this is an interesting edge case. I could see a reasonable GM ruling either way. Since the 3-point CSLs with any of x-weapon seem to be intended for ordinary weapon use, I would probably only allow using them with this multi-power if the multipower reserve itself had charges to represent the fact that you can only carry so many arrows in the quiver. Otherwise, I would probably require 5-point CSLs for All Bows, which would apply both to the multipower and any other bows your character can get his hands on. In any case the definitive answer would depend on the entirety of the character in question, the rest of the characters in the party, and the campaign itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJoe3 Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Re: Weapon Multipowers and CSLs I was recently working on a character who had a multipower defined as a bow and gimmick arrows. It has five slots. Would 3-point CSLs bought for "All Bows" apply to it' date=' or would it require 5-point CSLs?[/quote'] Power Frameworks with more than three slots would need the 5-point levels (6e1 71). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper-Man Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Re: Weapon Multipowers and CSLs Power Frameworks with more than three slots would need the 5-point levels (6e1 71). I'd forgotten or hadn't noticed that. Good catch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gent Posted July 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Re: Weapon Multipowers and CSLs Hmm... this is an interesting edge case. I could see a reasonable GM ruling either way. Since the 3-point CSLs with any of x-weapon seem to be intended for ordinary weapon use' date=' I would probably only allow using them with this multi-power if the multipower reserve itself had charges to represent the fact that you can only carry so many arrows in the quiver. Otherwise, I would probably require 5-point CSLs for All Bows, which would apply both to the multipower and any other bows your character can get his hands on.[/quote'] The reserve does have charges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gent Posted July 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Re: Weapon Multipowers and CSLs The character is based off of the weaponmaster on Champions p284. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Re: Weapon Multipowers and CSLs The reserve does have charges. About how many attacks are we talking? And how many of them are just like another, but with a different advantage? (i.e. Normal Damage Arrow, Armor Pirecing Normal Damage Arrow, Penetrating...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Re: Weapon Multipowers and CSLs The character is based off of the weaponmaster on Champions p284. That guy has 9 different Attacks, each built on a different power. That would clearly be out of range for 3-point CSL's Better buy 5 points for the Multipower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Re: Weapon Multipowers and CSLs A 5 pt Combat Skill Level covers "All Ranged Combat." (edit: this was an error on my part corrected downthread) So I'd say a 3 pt Level could cover the bow. If there's more than, say, 2 or 3 levels though, I might require that some be 5 pt levels if only because if someone is that skilled, they should be capable with any other ranged weapon too. Lucius Alexander Palindromedary Skill Levels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Re: Weapon Multipowers and CSLs A 5 pt Combat Skill Level covers "All Ranged Combat." Nope, the 8 points covers all Ranged or all HTH. The 3 point covers only thre attacks/maneuver. For bows in Fantasy, where they have only one attack each (killing damage) 3 would be okay. But this is superheroic and it will apply to up to 9 attacks. Clearly outside of the scope of "3 related Maneuvers or attacks". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper-Man Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Re: Weapon Multipowers and CSLs A 5 pt Combat Skill Level covers "All Ranged Combat." So I'd say a 3 pt Level could cover the bow. If there's more than, say, 2 or 3 levels though, I might require that some be 5 pt levels if only because if someone is that skilled, they should be capable with any other ranged weapon too. Lucius Alexander Palindromedary Skill Levels Keep in mind they are talking about the new 6e CSL costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 Re: Weapon Multipowers and CSLs Nope, the 8 points covers all Ranged or all HTH. The 3 point covers only thre attacks/maneuver. For bows in Fantasy, where they have only one attack each (killing damage) 3 would be okay. But this is superheroic and it will apply to up to 9 attacks. Clearly outside of the scope of "3 related Maneuvers or attacks". My mistake. Lucius Alexander I should have asked a palindromedary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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