JmOz Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 Real hard time building a power I know it is a linked barrier and life-support. Basically the Barrier is a 4" Length (free floating) globe. The globe has life support inside it. The power is intended as a prison/rescue device Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 Have you looked at Extra Dimension? If it’s just a plot device then I don’t see the harm. Add limitation to suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 Can you hurt someone inside the globe from the outside? Or is it impervious to all damage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmOz Posted June 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 29 minutes ago, Ninja-Bear said: Can you hurt someone inside the globe from the outside? Or is it impervious to all damage? It has a protective element. The generator can dispel it, but otherwise if it is up the inhabitant is protected... Basically trying to make GL Power bubbles... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 Ok, how strong do you need the barrier to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmOz Posted June 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 Right now 12/12 body 1 (Pop goes the weasle) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 How about this? Safety Bubble: Barrier 4m h x 4m w x 1/2m thk; 12 DEF; 1 BODY ACT 28 CP Real 28 CP LS: All Safe Environments; Self Contained Breathing (linked -1/2) ACT 19 CP REAL 13 CP Total 41 CP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmOz Posted June 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 Wouldn't life support need some UOO & AE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 51 minutes ago, JmOz said: Wouldn't life support need some UOO & AE? I wouldn’t think so. I mean you’re in the bubble. You wouldn’t need AoE because your buying the size of Bubble to Englobe. I assume that since if linked the LS to the Bubble and you must be in the Bubble it works. UOO might be a more technically correct approach but I wouldn’t require it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 Doc the more I think about it, the more you shouldn’t need UOO. The intent of UOO is to grant a Power to someone else and they get to operate away from the grantor. Say GL grants Batman a Force Bubble/Force Field so he can fight in space along side GL. Here the Bubble is in the Controller’s hands the whole time. Duke Bushido 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Democracy Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 17 hours ago, JmOz said: Real hard time building a power I know it is a linked barrier and life-support. Basically the Barrier is a 4" Length (free floating) globe. The globe has life support inside it. The power is intended as a prison/rescue device Well, as GM, I would be content with someone presenting with area affect life support, usable by others, physical manifestation with some resistant defence only for the physical manifestation. I would be asking how it works, how it moves, END requirements but I would generally be facilitative. Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 Doc I thought if this last night. Vehicles afaik just purchase LS but don’t need AoE for it. So to me the bubble is the same way. Now on another thread someone asked about his Radiation character that made an area around him safe and Duke Bushido suggested AoE-LS which I s totally legit I feel. You don’t need AoE and OOU together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmOz Posted June 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 Interesting idea, maybe the Barrier build is the issue...what about summon vehicle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 39 minutes ago, JmOz said: Interesting idea, maybe the Barrier build is the issue...what about summon vehicle... When I get the chance, a friend gave me Ultimate Vehicle. I wonder if an escape pod is in it. But what’s the issue you're with Barrier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmOz Posted June 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 Feels "Clunky", Active Points vs effect seem off.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 1 hour ago, JmOz said: Feels "Clunky", Active Points vs effect seem off.... Active points too high or too low? Oh and who is controlling the Bubble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmOz Posted June 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 Seems excessive for what it is intended for. Really picture them just kind of floating in space till someone moves them from outside, or maybe a little autopilot to the closest planet, top of ocean, etc... Really intended as a tool for holding people already defeated OR saving innocents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, JmOz said: Seems excessive for what it is intended for. Really picture them just kind of floating in space till someone moves them from outside, or maybe a little autopilot to the closest planet, top of ocean, etc... Really intended as a tool for holding people already defeated OR saving innocents Well here’s the thing. If you just made it a Force Bubble, I don’t know that many people would question that LS wasn’t tacked on. I just went with overkill with all the LS. I guess the question is, if you have a Force Field does it inherently protect you from x,y & z? I can actually see it going both ways. So in some ways a vehicle might be more of a pain than it’s worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmOz Posted June 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 Yup, lots of thinking and pointing up to do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 Also Jmoz, I bought LS: self contained Breathing. I was thinking GL saving someone out in space would take you longer than extended breathing. So you could just reduce the Bubble down to Barrier and just LS: Extended Breathing 4 pts. Does that work better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Neilson Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 What about AoE radius Life Support with a Physical Manifestation? Tack on a bit of Flight if it''s self-propelled. Is it important that the bubble shield or imprison the target? If not, that may do the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Hugh Neilson said: What about AoE radius Life Support with a Physical Manifestation? Tack on a bit of Flight if it''s self-propelled. Is it important that the bubble shield or imprison the target? If not, that may do the trick. Iirc physical manifestation does provide some defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Democracy Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 Dont see Duke in this thread, so why dont I throw a Duke-ism out. If you buy LS-usable by others, then the bubble itself is simply the SFX of that power - you see a bubble of force surround the person. How do you pop the bubble - define that. If it is not for imprisoning people, then is there a huge need for defences? You can give it a reasonable defence as part of the SFX. We do fall into the trap of trying to cost everything, even when it is not entirely necessary.... Doc Chris Goodwin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 5 hours ago, Doc Democracy said: Dont see Duke in this thread, so why dont I throw a Duke-ism out. If you buy LS-usable by others, then the bubble itself is simply the SFX of that power - you see a bubble of force surround the person. How do you pop the bubble - define that. If it is not for imprisoning people, then is there a huge need for defences? You can give it a reasonable defence as part of the SFX. We do fall into the trap of trying to cost everything, even when it is not entirely necessary.... Doc Well to be fair, I thought you wanted defenses-PD/ED. Remember the 12 DEF 1 Body? 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmOz Posted June 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Hugh Neilson said: What about AoE radius Life Support with a Physical Manifestation? Tack on a bit of Flight if it''s self-propelled. Is it important that the bubble shield or imprison the target? If not, that may do the trick. It is important that it can imprison during a non combat situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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