SteveZilla Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re: Longest Running Thread EVER Mmmm' date=' sea wasps ...[/quote'] I'm sure the Catholics go swimming as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re: Longest Running Thread EVER Had a nice time? Snow not bothering you fellas? It's Darwin. They have evolved beyond such silly stuff as snow. Now' date=' lethal cnidarians in the water they have ....[/quote'] What? Mmmm' date=' sea wasps ...[/quote'] worse; box jellyfish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveZilla Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re: Longest Running Thread EVER Tiny box jellyfish (like a 1 cm bell, and ~30 cm tentacles), making it very hard to even see. Called Irukandji. It's stings can be fatal, which given its size is amazing. Example: [ATTACH=CONFIG]34606[/ATTACH] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re: Longest Running Thread EVER woah that's small. and from Oct to May the Box jellyfish come close to shore to mate, making swimming impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re: Longest Running Thread EVER And improbable, at least among the cognoscenti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re: Longest Running Thread EVER not sure what you are posting about... Here we have signs warning people not to swim in the sea between Oct to May due to Box jellyfish. Also there is vinegar provided as of this is put on immediately after being stung a person has a chance to live. Leave it to long before applying vinegar and death surely follows. Sad, but true. Worse is those who steal the vinegar provided along the beaches thus depriving the saving of lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re: Longest Running Thread EVER That is sad. YOu can BUY a gallon of Vinegar here for about $3.00 US Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re: Longest Running Thread EVER It's Darwin. They have evolved beyond such silly stuff as snow. Now' date=' lethal cnidarians in the water they have ....[/quote'] What? worse; box jellyfish. Cnidarians. Jellyfish are members of the phylum called Cnidaria. I already knew about the Irukandji, and those are what I was referring to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re: Longest Running Thread EVER I didn't know about the vinegar. Here in the States they recommend keeping meat tenderizer in your kit if you think there's any risk of getting stung by jellyfish; the tenderizer breaks down proteins, including the stinging cells and venom of the jellyfish around North America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re: Longest Running Thread EVER Well, we live and learn, ideally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re: Longest Running Thread EVER That "living" part sometimes is the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re: Longest Running Thread EVER "Exist and learn" just don't have that same oomph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re: Longest Running Thread EVER Hmm. I wonder if it's safe to try to get into the bookstore now. Might was well try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re: Longest Running Thread EVER Was there a stampeed this morning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re: Longest Running Thread EVER No, thankfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re: Longest Running Thread EVER Well, Gott sei dank for small miracles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re: Longest Running Thread EVER Yeah. Unfortunately, it didn't do me any good, because they didn't have what I was looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re: Longest Running Thread EVER * Cancer vaguely suspects that having had the hots for someone 30 years ago is a bad reason to vote for that person's candidacy for an office in a scientific society, but decides he can't think of any more valid criterion and does it anyway * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re: Longest Running Thread EVER But you stiiilll haven't found what you're looking foooor ... What was it, then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re: Longest Running Thread EVER A certain type of envelope. Their selection was more limited than I expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re: Longest Running Thread EVER * Cancer vaguely suspects that having had the hots for someone 30 years ago is a bad reason to vote for that person's candidacy for an office in a scientific society' date=' but decides he can't think of any more valid criterion and does it anyway *[/i'] ... Just so you know -- I wanna Rep you for this, but can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re: Longest Running Thread EVER Hey, I can wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re: Longest Running Thread EVER That is sad. YOu can BUY a gallon of Vinegar here for about $3.00 US I think you might have misread me. The authorities put the vinegar along the beach proactively, so it really doesn't matter the cost, as it can save lives if applied immediately after being stung. And of course you can BYO to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re: Longest Running Thread EVER I was saying it is sad that people would steal something so cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re: Longest Running Thread EVER Cnidarians. Jellyfish are members of the phylum called Cnidaria. I already knew about the Irukandji' date=' and those are what I was referring to.[/quote'] ok thanks. I didn't know about the vinegar. Here in the States they recommend keeping meat tenderizer in your kit if you think there's any risk of getting stung by jellyfish; the tenderizer breaks down proteins' date=' including the stinging cells and venom of the jellyfish around North America.[/quote'] didn't know about the meat tenderizer (but may have forgotten it) Found this from wikipedia: The highest risk period for the box jellyfish is between October to May, but stings and specimens have been reported all months of the year. Similarly, the highest risk conditions are those with calm water and a light, onshore breeze; however, stings and specimens have been reported in all conditions. Box jellyfish are abundant in the warm waters of northern Australia and Indo-Pacific. However, the box jellyfish has been spotted in North America, one time during the summer of 2006. The swarms generally disappear during the Australian winter (though occasional individuals are found throughout the year). [...] Treatment of stings If swimming at a beach where box jellyfish are known to be present, a bottle of vinegar is an extremely useful addition to the first aid kit. Once a tentacle of the box jellyfish adheres to skin, it pumps nematocysts with venom into the skin, causing the sting and agonizing pain. Following a sting, vinegar should be applied for a minimum of 30 seconds, resulting in the removal of any unfired nematocysts. A box jellyfish sting can kill a human. Acetic acid, found in vinegar, disables the box jelly's nematocysts that have not yet discharged into the bloodstream (though it will not alleviate the pain). Vinegar may also be applied to adherent tentacles, which should then be removed immediately; this should be done with the use of a towel or glove to avoid bringing the tentacles into further contact with the skin. These tentacles will still sting if separated from the bell, or if the creature is dead. Removing the tentacles without first applying vinegar may cause unfired nematocysts to come into contact with the skin and fire, resulting in a greater degree of envenomation. If no vinegar is available, a heat pack has been proven for moderate pain relief. However, careful removal of the tentacles by hand is recommended. Although commonly recommended in folklore and even some papers on sting treatment, there is no scientific evidence that urine, ammonia, meat tenderizer, sodium bicarbonate, boric acid, lemon juice, freshwater, steroid cream, alcohol, cold packs, papaya, or hydrogen peroxide will disable further stinging, and these substances may even hasten the release of venom. Pressure immobilization bandages, methylated spirits, or vodka should never be used for jelly stings. Often in severe Chironex fleckeri stings cardiac arrest occurs quickly, so cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) can be life saving and takes priority over all other treatment options (including application of vinegar). Box jellyfish, just one of the number of seemingly endless deadly animals inhabiting australia. edit: this is also worth a read: http://www.outback-australia-travel-secrets.com/box-jellyfish.html#box-jellyfish-first-aid would also make a good origin for a super-villain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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