Cancer Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Re: The Last Word That's good. I don't give lab assignments unless I have built into them ways that make dry-labbing apparent. Perhaps it's apparent only to me in the assignment itself, but it's very apparent in the document I file with the Dean. "Most professors believe that burning at the stake is too lenient a penalty for cheating, but they'll go along with it anyway since it's cheap and convenient." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Re: The Last Word Honestly, I can't recall ever "faking it" without, in some way, going to the professor to find some way around it. But then, I also didn't miss labs, if I could help it. I even went to the geology lab where we went to a sewage treatment plant. Yech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Re: The Last Word Heh. My work-study job my freshman year was as bottle washer and lab gopher for the Water & Air Quality Lab in the civil engineering department. ... That's where they train people how to work in sewage treatment plants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Re: The Last Word I understand it pays well, but I couldn't do it . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Re: The Last Word Well, it was interesting work. The disgusting stuff was kept carefully under fume hoods and other protective measures, so aside from some ... peculiar ... choices in what makes for good shop-talk at lunch, it really wasn't a bad environment at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Re: The Last Word It was far less refined in backwoods Maine. I believe that treatment plant then had a gigantic influx of hot, soapy water, as 50 college students started a load of laundry and hopped in the shower in unison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Re: The Last Word Our lunch topics tend to have cat by products discussed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted March 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Re: The Last Word you better not cat-ch them eating them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Re: The Last Word Recycle Reduce Reuse and close the loop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Re: The Last Word Some things are ... difficult to re-use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Re: The Last Word Most of what we eat, for instance . . . Human stuff doesn't even make very good fertilizer unless it's eaten by bacteria who like that sort of thing, first. Which is exactly how the plant in Maine handled it, actually. The stuff would get eaten by this bacteria, which would then be spread on the fields as manure. Which is why I don't eat potatoes from Maine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Re: The Last Word "Night soil" has been a fertilizer in many, many places for a long, long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Re: The Last Word Yep. Though it gets heavily treated if it comes from sewage plants. Now, if you're talking herbivore waste, that barely gets treated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Re: The Last Word "Night soil" has been a fertilizer in many' date=' many places for a long, long time.[/quote'] Really? Ew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Re: The Last Word Yep. Though it gets heavily treated if it comes from sewage plants. Now' date=' if you're talking herbivore waste, that barely gets treated.[/quote'] Herbivores tend to generate much larger volumes of it, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Re: The Last Word Indeed they do. Not that I've observed that TOO closely, but I have walked through cow fields after the cows have been grazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Re: The Last Word It's the roughage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Re: The Last Word I kinda figured. Y'know, how much more difficult would it be to keep cats if they were herbivores? I know the litterbox would fill up a LOT faster, for starters . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Re: The Last Word Herbivores don't conceal their droppings, they spread them, precisely because they're good fertilizer. Carnivores hide theirs to minimize the scent traces that give them away while hunting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Re: The Last Word Well, that would make it even less compelling, I'm sure. I KNEW there was a reason we humans only kept carnivores as free-roaming pets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conduit Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Re: The Last Word That's good. I don't give lab assignments unless I have built into them ways that make dry-labbing apparent. Perhaps it's apparent only to me in the assignment itself, but it's very apparent in the document I file with the Dean. "Most professors believe that burning at the stake is too lenient a penalty for cheating, but they'll go along with it anyway since it's cheap and convenient." I half dry-labbed something once. We were supposed to run the experiment twice but I ran out of time for some reason so I fudged the results of the second experiment using the first as a guide. I don't believe the teacher noticed. I was, however, annointed as the student with the worst luck in lab work ever by my HS Chem II (Inorganic) teacher. I had to repeat several labs because he said my results weren't possible. One experiment involved silver nitrate (I believe) and, of course, was sensative to light. The second run of the experiment was kept in the supply closet which only the teacher had access to. It was also ruined by light exposure but the teacher said it looked like someone had shown a flashlight on it for a couple of hours and couldn't figure out how that had happened. I didn't have to attempt it a third time. Needless to say, I decided to stay away from any field requiring lab work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Re: The Last Word Y'know, I often had the same thing happen during labs. Nearly failed chemistry because of that . . . This is also tied to my dislike of cooking, btw. My dishes don't turn out the way the recipe says they will. I always have to improvise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Re: The Last Word Well, that would make it even less compelling, I'm sure. I KNEW there was a reason we humans only kept carnivores as free-roaming pets. Rabbits perhaps? Which can be litter boxed trained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Re: The Last Word Really? I'm not entirely sure I'm comfortable labeling rabbits as herbivores, though. I've owned rabbits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Re: The Last Word Really? I'm not entirely sure I'm comfortable labeling rabbits as herbivores, though. I've owned rabbits. rabbits, herbivores. Except for bill, they don't eat meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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