keithcurtis Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Once again, being between assignments, I have had some time to devote to Savage Earth matters. This time, I have completely re-done the campaign map. I started the map long ago as a personal project and never meant for it to be a showpiece. However, looking at some of my later maps, that early thing looked rather wretched in comparison. So, submitted for your approval, here are links to the Main Map: The Campaign Area: And the Page that puts them into context Keith "Savage Cartographer" Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Re: New World Map Very nice! But - no beaches or cliffs? Or is the scale too large to show them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Re: New World Map Scale should be pretty obvious... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Long Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Re: New World Map Very nice! Excellent work as always, Keith! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Re: New World Map Scale should be pretty obvious... I can't tell. Too much looking at maps of islands I guess - detailed coastlines just don't give me a good clue to scale. How many kilometers is it across? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teh bunneh Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Re: New World Map I can't tell. Too much looking at maps of islands I guess - detailed coastlines just don't give me a good clue to scale. How many kilometers is it across? Rotate the first map 90 degrees clockwise and then take a good look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted November 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Re: New World Map Rotate the first map 90 degrees clockwise and then take a good look at it. hee-hee. Keith "Some of my own players didn't get this for years..." Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eosin Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Re: New World Map That is what I get for not keeping you busy. Very nice work Keith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Re: New World Map The implication is that it's a real world map rotated - I just don't recognise the coastline. What continent is it based on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eosin Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Re: New World Map It is North America rotated with a different polar north. See the "Rocky Mountains".... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Squirrel Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Re: New World Map Alaska is your more obvious visual hint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Re: New World Map hee-hee. Keith "Some of my own players didn't get this for years..." Curtis I hate to disparage people I haven't met, but someone would have to be pretty thick not to get the joke. Certainly, to not get it for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Re: New World Map Perhaps the players weren't Americans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted November 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Re: New World Map Actually, they were. (Americans) The campaign map they most often looked at was the second one, though, and that group of islands up there aren't familiar to a lot of people. You'd be surprised how many people miss the connection. Also, the older map included the north coast of Asia, also terra incognita to casual map users. K e i t h "sideways" C u r t i s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Re: New World Map Yeah, I'm just nick picky because I'm jealous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Squirrel Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Re: New World Map Phenomenal work as usual... makes my own maps seem so' date=' um, inadequate.[/quote'] Maps nothing. I mean, they are phenominal, don't get me wrong. But you should be a player in his game. It is games like that that force me to pay for internet access. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Re: New World Map Actually, they were. (Americans) The campaign map they most often looked at was the second one, though, and that group of islands up there aren't familiar to a lot of people. OK, I'll grant you it's not a part of the world/map I look at very often. But come on! ---- "Green Land", "Baffin Island", "Nunavut Jungle", "Boothia", "Banks Island", "Bear Lake", "Slave Lake", etc., etc. And they didn't get it?? Man, no wonder most of the world considers Americans ignorant in geography. You'd be surprised how many people miss the connection. Also' date=' the older map included the north coast of Asia, also terra incognita to casual map users.[/quote'] I'd think that'd help. K e i t h "sideways" C u r t i s lisaB "sdrawkcab" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted November 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Re: New World Map Apparently, some folks just don't care about that world-building stuff. I discussed this with a couple of players. One of them said that they really only were interested in the world as it related to them. They were interested in character building options, the interaction and role-playing plots. They viewed knowledge of the wider world as irrelevant and never bothered to study the material closely that did not relate to their character. As a world-builder, I find this approach totally incomprehensible. Valid, I suppose, but incomprehensible. Keith "Don't get it" Curtis PS. Here's an animation from the old site design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Squirrel Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Re: New World Map Really? Wow. I'm personally a person who likes to know "how". Questions like How did the earth tilt? and How did the Demon Kings come to power? are the questions I ask about worlds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatwyrm Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Re: New World Map They viewed knowledge of the wider world as irrelevant and never bothered to study the material closely that did not relate to their character. As a world-builder, I find this approach totally incomprehensible. Valid, I suppose, but incomprehensible. I agree, but consider how many people live their real lives in that same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Squirrel Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Re: New World Map I agree' date=' but consider how many people live their real lives in that same way.[/quote'] A lot of people live the real life as simply watching TV. What kind of World View is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatwyrm Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Re: New World Map A lot of people live the real life as simply watching TV. What kind of World View is that? I guess it depends on how good your cable package is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Re: New World Map Dang - looking at your globe, we're not on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted November 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Re: New World Map Sure you are. Southern Hemisphere, just after Asia and before equatorial Antarctica. You're a little farther south than normal and Canberra is probably (ant)arctic in climate. Poor Rage is buried under a polar ice cap. Keith "You are sideways, old east coast pointed south" Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susandwyer Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Re: New World Map Actually, I was one of the players that "didn't get it". I think it's because I absolutely, completely didn't care. Where the campaign is doesn't matter. It is what it is. It is as real as the GM and players make it. Keith likes his maps and I think they're nice to look at but my question has always been, "What's off the page?" Steve had Keith make a map for something (Valdorian?) that said Equator at the bottom. Well, what's past that? Drove me crazy to look at. Didn't get it=didn't care to get it. It is the Savage Earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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